From: GT on
"Allen" <allent(a)austin.rr.com> wrote in message
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> On 3/2/2010 2:09 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
>> Allen wrote:
>>
>>> On 3/2/2010 4:30 AM, VanguardLH wrote:
>>>> Man-wai Chang to The Door (33600bps) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Esp when most PCs are not being used to play DirectX games.... :)
>>>>
>>>> Um, other than games, just what software pushes the envelope to prod
>>>> users
>>>> to buy more powerful hardware? You think you need that 3GHz dual- or
>>>> quad-core processor with 4GB, or more, of system memory to run a word
>>>> processor (when then used to run back in DOS in under 640K on old P1
>>>> processors running at 100MHz)? You think PC sales having bleeding edge
>>>> maxed out hardware is driven by users of AutoCAD or video editing
>>>> programs?
>>>> Games push for more powerful hardware and games are what draw consumers
>>>> to
>>>> pay for that more powerful hardware.
>>> For a start, there are photo and video editing programs.
>>> Allen
>>
>> Photo editing can be done on decade or older hosts. Video editing
>> requires
>> horsepower to complete in a shorter time but then I already mentioned
>> that.
>> You thought the vast majority of PC users are doing video editing?
> If you don't want answers, don't ask questions.

"I want the truth"
"You can't handle the truth"
"Son, we live in a world that's protected by walls."... etc. etc.


From: kony on
On Tue, 2 Mar 2010 04:30:19 -0600, VanguardLH <V(a)nguard.LH>
wrote:

>Man-wai Chang to The Door (33600bps) wrote:
>
>> Esp when most PCs are not being used to play DirectX games.... :)
>
>Um, other than games, just what software pushes the envelope to prod users
>to buy more powerful hardware? You think you need that 3GHz dual- or
>quad-core processor with 4GB, or more, of system memory to run a word
>processor (when then used to run back in DOS in under 640K on old P1
>processors running at 100MHz)? You think PC sales having bleeding edge
>maxed out hardware is driven by users of AutoCAD or video editing programs?
>Games push for more powerful hardware and games are what draw consumers to
>pay for that more powerful hardware.


Most users aren't pushed to buy new hardware. It's those on
the internet who want to feel modern, those who buy new
parts and get into conversations about them to learn more
about their parts, and enthusiasts in general who do it as a
hobby which comprise the majority of new system owners who
bought for some other reason than replacing after a system
failure.

Recovering from system failure is the scenario I see most
often these days. People just want to restore their system
to a reliable state for the least money possible, and maybe
increase the memory while they're having someone look at it
for them.

This puts aside young gamers who are always wanting to feel
in the loop by playing same games as their peers, and
rightly so I suppose... if you can't benefit from modern
technology then what is the point of modern technology?
From: Mickel on
"Man-wai Chang to The Door (33600bps)" <toylet.toylet(a)gmail.com> wrote in
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>
> Esp when most PCs are not being used to play DirectX games.... :)

Most people watch video on their PC and it takes a 3ghz dual core PC to
watch a hi def video while recording one or 2 others.

Michael


From: "nobody >" on
VanguardLH wrote:
> You think you need that 3GHz dual- or
> quad-core processor with 4GB, or more, of system memory to run a word
> processor (when then used to run back in DOS in under 640K on old P1
> processors running at 100MHz)?

Methinks you are mixing generations here.

P-ones @ 100 megahurts were usually running Windows. M# Office won't do
diddly in 640K.


ITYM:
XT level or lower, with the Wordstar/DOS bootdisk in one floppy drive
and the "docs" disk in the other floppy drive.

I do agree on the 'real needs' thingie.

My Palm Centro smartphone has about 50X the CPU power of an XT and
'eons beyond' storage. It doesn't hurt much when I drop it on my toe...
(did that with an XT box, wrong time/place/circumstances, .. bad..)


Said smartphone could probably "run my life" and it does, I have
ringtones built for about everything and everybody, and a calendar
system that confuses my boss.

(pauses for the poor iPod users who find that there are no "good apps"
for what they do. See what you can find that compares with Electrist..
http://www.redbinary.com/electrist_index.php)









From: GT on
"Mickel" <mickle(a)nospam.com> wrote in message
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> "Man-wai Chang to The Door (33600bps)" <toylet.toylet(a)gmail.com> wrote in
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>>
>> Esp when most PCs are not being used to play DirectX games.... :)
>
> Most people watch video on their PC and it takes a 3ghz dual core PC to
> watch a hi def video while recording one or 2 others.

I don't think that is true. At least half of the PCs in the world must sit
on desks in offices and aren't used as TV. Of those PCs in peoples home, I
would be surprised if more than 1 third are used to watch TV - most people
have a TV for that job. That means that less than 1 sixth of PCs are used to
watch TV. I also don't think many of those PC TV watchers actually watch 1
channel while recording 1 or 2 others - there are dedicated boxes that do
this job much better and easier.

I agree with your spec statement, just not the % of users implied.