From: Robert L. Oldershaw on
On Jul 2, 11:02 pm, eric gisse <jowr.pi.nos...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Jul 2, 11:02 pm, eric gisse <jowr.pi.nos...(a)gmail.com> wrote:

If you read what I wrote more carefully you would have seen that I
understand where the disparity originates.


In fact I have written a paper on how to resolve the crisis:


http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/0901/0901.3381.pdf


Yoy might read this to edify yourself, Woofster.


RLO
www.amherst.edu/~rloldershaw


From: Sam Wormley on
On 7/2/10 9:55 PM, Robert L. Oldershaw wrote:
> On Jul 2, 3:56 pm, Sam Wormley<sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> as well as the modern physics theories, such as QED, enjoy the fact
>> that there has never been an observation that contradicts a prediction
>> of those theories.
> -----------------------------------------------
>
> Have you ever heard about the vacuum energy density crisis?
>
> Disparity = 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,...total is 120 zeros.
>
> I would say that is a, shall we say, significant contradiction from
> what General Relativity and modern cosmology estimate for the vacuum
> energy density.
>
> RLO
> www.amherst.edu/~rloldershaw
>
>

Are you daft, Oldershaw. General relativity makes no prediction
as to what the vacuum energy density is. Give us a break!


From: Yousuf Khan on
On 7/3/2010 3:47 AM, BURT wrote:
> On Jul 2, 1:51 pm, Yousuf Khan<bbb...(a)spammenot.yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Time does affect causality. At relativistic speeds, time slows down, and
>> therefore causality slows down too. Chemical reactions slow down,
>> biological processes slow down, therefore a person traveling at
>> relativistic speeds will age slower than somebody standing still (i.e.
>> the Einstein twin paradox).
>
> You're clock is running slow but it is always going forward!
>
> Mitch Raemsch

But at the quantum level, you can't tell if time is going forward or
backward, they all look the same.

It's only at the macro level where entropy comes into play that you can
distinguish somewhat between forward and backward.

In another universe, if the time arrow were reversed from our own, then
we would be calling that time direction the forward direction.

Yousuf Khan
From: Yousuf Khan on
On 7/3/2010 9:11 AM, Robert L. Oldershaw wrote:
> On Jul 2, 4:51 pm, Yousuf Khan<bbb...(a)spammenot.yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> That's of course not true. There's plenty of things in the universe that
>> are reversible. Earth's orbit around the Sun, for example, is so
>> reversible that you can roll it back in time billions of years, and
>> still be able to tell where it was. You could also roll it forward
>> billions of years, and tell where it will be.
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> My dear benighted fellow! Have you never heard of Henri Poincare and
> his work on the stability of the Solar System, and the discovery of
> deterministic chaos/nonlinear dynamical systems? Do you read current
> scientific papers?
>
> You are talking pre-Poincare 19th century fantasy physics which was
> wrong even back then.
>
> To espouse such nonsense today is pathetic! Any competent physicist
> will inform you that your statement is completely ridiculous and
> false, to boot.
>
> At least try to come up to speed with the 20th century, if you are not
> ready to go forth boldly into the 21st century.
>
> KNOW WHAT YOU KNOW,
>
> AND KNOW WHAT YOU DO NOT KNOW.
>
> Both are important, Pilgrim.

My dear Pilgrim, you have just now discovered why nobody takes you
seriously. Instead of engaging in discussion, you just put up your
defenses, spewed irrelevant gobbledygook and began name-calling. You'll
have to wait another several months for somebody listen to you again.

Yousuf Khan
From: hanson on
"Yousuf Khan" <bbbl67(a)spammenot.yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:sNudneDXHbJbz7PRnZ2dnUVZ8tydnZ2d(a)giganews.com...
> On 7/3/2010 1:08 AM, JT wrote:
>> Well the spatial dimensions in special relativity is all fucked up.
>> Since events are not local they may not behave the way we are
>> accustomed to but they will abey the logic of causality in some form.
>> So we have a timeline that is a rubberband but the reality outside the
>> bubble of universe is still stringent in fact it will be stringent in
>> every point of universe that studies our universe it will follow the
>> line of causality but with both spatial and timelike distorsion, none
>> of those is however proved.
>>
>> But even if we suppose there is local timelines, the causality will
>> measure and describe events in a logical consise and coherent way. And
>> that is from any point that studies the event....s , in special
>> relativity that is not the case however it is a faulthy theory, that
>> can not give a coherent description of events separated by time and
>> spatial.
>
"Yousuf Khan" wrote:
> Well, if you think about it, in special relativity, all they are really
> saying is that causality is slowed down at relativistic speeds. Chemical
> reactions, biological processes, kinetic processes, all occur at slower
> rates.
>
hanson wrote:
Yossi, you sing the song of the Einstein Dingleberries.
You express & parrot fantasies of deranged Jews and
abberant goyim kikeophiles. There is not a singe instant
where, in the local, testable neighborhood, humankind
has been able to accelerate any ponderable body, bigger
then atoms to relativistic speeds. -- Consider, there are
N_A, 6E23 atoms needed to produce a handful of dirt.
That's the amount of mass needed to produce a real
solid ~5" disk... for which your relativity fails pitifully...
>
At least, you should toned your parroting down & said:
To a (stationary) observer (outside the speeding frame)
CBK processes may, perhaps, APPEAR to be slower.
>
Also, Youssi, don't tell anybody that you can't be really
sure what happened because of it's relativistic speed, that
the disk went by you... Except that its hypersonic boom
knocked you out of your chair, and that you are ever
more grateful that the relativistically speeding disk did
not hit you head on.... ahahahaha....
>
Of course, like all Einstein Dingleberries do, you may
loudly disagree & prove your notion by simply providing
the address of, and an interview with, Einstein's Younger
Twin... Thanks for the laughs, Youssi... ahahahanson


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