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From: J. Clarke on 16 May 2010 21:29
On 5/16/2010 8:07 PM, tadchem wrote:
> On May 16, 7:24 pm, BURT<macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>> The universe spontaneously created itself? And his science proves it!
>>
>> God doesn't need to prove that He exists.
>
> A god that is capable of doing anything is not capable of doubting.
>
> A god that knows everything does not know the limits to his knowledge.

And how do you know these things? Divine revelation?

From: BURT on 16 May 2010 23:46
On May 16, 5:37 pm, xxein <xx...(a)comcast.net> wrote:
> On May 16, 8:14 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 16, 5:07 pm, tadchem <tadc...(a)comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > > On May 16, 7:24 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > The universe spontaneously created itself? And his science proves it!
>
> > > > God doesn't need to prove that He exists.
>
> > > A god that is capable of doing anything is not capable of doubting.
>
> > > A god that knows everything does not know the limits to his knowledge..
>
> > > A god that is neither omniscient nor omnipotent is not worth
> > > worshiping.
>
> > > Tom Davidson
> > > Richmond, VA
>
> > I see you have decided you have the knowlege of what it takes to be a
> > God.
>
> > Good luck at playing God. See where it is going to take you.
>
> > Mitch Raemsch
>
> xxein:  So you spend all day praying to your god to change this
> physical universe into one that you want to believe?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Basically that is what Hawking is doing. He finds physics that make
him believe in no God simply because he is an atheist and nothing
more.

Mitch Raemsch
From: Helmut Wabnig hwabnig on 17 May 2010 02:26
On Sun, 16 May 2010 20:46:10 -0700 (PDT), BURT <macromitch(a)yahoo.com>
wrote:

>On May 16, 5:37�pm, xxein <xx...(a)comcast.net> wrote:
>> On May 16, 8:14�pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On May 16, 5:07�pm, tadchem <tadc...(a)comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> > > On May 16, 7:24�pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> > > > The universe spontaneously created itself? And his science proves it!
>>
>> > > > God doesn't need to prove that He exists.
>>
>> > > A god that is capable of doing anything is not capable of doubting.
>>
>> > > A god that knows everything does not know the limits to his knowledge.
>>
>> > > A god that is neither omniscient nor omnipotent is not worth
>> > > worshiping.
>>
>> > > Tom Davidson
>> > > Richmond, VA
>>
>> > I see you have decided you have the knowlege of what it takes to be a
>> > God.
>>
>> > Good luck at playing God. See where it is going to take you.
>>
>> > Mitch Raemsch
>>
>> xxein: �So you spend all day praying to your god to change this
>> physical universe into one that you want to believe?- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>Basically that is what Hawking is doing. He finds physics that make
>him believe in no God simply because he is an atheist and nothing
>more.
>
>Mitch Raemsch

Atheism is the highest possible developement of humankind.
There ain't no more ....

hahahaha...

w.
From: Igor on 17 May 2010 12:44
On May 16, 11:46 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> On May 16, 5:37 pm, xxein <xx...(a)comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 16, 8:14 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > On May 16, 5:07 pm, tadchem <tadc...(a)comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > > > On May 16, 7:24 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > The universe spontaneously created itself? And his science proves it!
>
> > > > > God doesn't need to prove that He exists.
>
> > > > A god that is capable of doing anything is not capable of doubting.
>
> > > > A god that knows everything does not know the limits to his knowledge.
>
> > > > A god that is neither omniscient nor omnipotent is not worth
> > > > worshiping.
>
> > > > Tom Davidson
> > > > Richmond, VA
>
> > > I see you have decided you have the knowlege of what it takes to be a
> > > God.
>
> > > Good luck at playing God. See where it is going to take you.
>
> > > Mitch Raemsch
>
> > xxein:  So you spend all day praying to your god to change this
> > physical universe into one that you want to believe?- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Basically that is what Hawking is doing. He finds physics that make
> him believe in no God simply because he is an atheist and nothing
> more.
>
> Mitch Raemsch

Everyone needs to believe in something. With you, it's some two bit
notion of a god. It sure as hell is not logic and reason.

From: hanson on 18 May 2010 04:57
.... AHAHAHAHA... ahahahaha... AHAHAHAHA...
>
"Helmut Wabnig" <hwabnig@ .- --- -. dotat> wrote:
> Mitch Raemsch BURT <macromitch(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>>On May 16, 5:37 pm, xxein <xx...(a)comcast.net> wrote:
>>> On May 16, 8:14 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> > On May 16, 5:07 pm, tadchem <tadc...(a)comcast.net> wrote:
>>> > > On May 16, 7:24 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
Bible Beater Burt wrote:
>>> > > > The universe spontaneously created itself?
>>> > > > And his science proves it!
>>> > > > God doesn't need to prove that He exists.
>
Davidson wrote:
>>> > > A god that is capable of doing anything is not
>>> > > capable of doubting. A god that knows everything
>>> > > does not know the limits to his knowledge.
>>> > > A god that is neither omniscient nor omnipotent
>>> > > is not worth worshiping.
>>>
BBB aka Bible Beater Burt wrote:
>>> > I see you, Davidson, have decided you have the
>>> > knowlege of what it takes to be a God. Good luck
>>> > at playing God. See where it is going to take you.
>>>
>>> xxein wrote:
>>> So you, Burt, spend all day praying to your god to
>>> change this physical universe into one that you want
>>> to believe
>>
BBB wrote:
>> Basically that is what Hawking is doing. He finds physics
>> that make him believe in no God simply because he is
>> an atheist and nothing more.
>
"Helmut Wabnig" wrote:
> Atheism is the highest possible developement of humankind.
> There ain't no more .... hahahaha...
>
hanson wrote:
.... AHAHAHAHA... ahahahaha... AHAHAHAHA...
Wabie, I am not going to beat on you,... this time...
but hang onto your...hahahaha..., because there is more,
which neither you nor Tom, nor xxein does see.
>
You guys will never be able to convince any BB,
because the fatal flaw in your arguments is that you
are arguing from very different levels of the brain
then does BBB. BBB resorts to emotional, archaic
thalamus/pituitarially imprinted reasoning, which
trumps your modern cerebral reasoning every time.
BBB's world is as real to him as is yours to yourself.
>
This discussion has a parallel in the physics quarrel
over whether a photon has mass or not as per
E^2 = (mc^2)^2 + p^2c^2
You guys argue that the photon has NO mass.
BBB comes back and says: " as long as p is
defined as m*c, the photon does contain mass."
>
Can you cerebral guys see the analog? So, adjust
your arguments accordingly, in both cases, and
present your stance with the necessary emotional
depth and intensity. You will be double winners.
Till then, thanks for the laughs... ahahahanson


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