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From: David H. Lipman on 3 May 2010 19:27 From: "Stephen Wolstenholme" <steve(a)tropheus.demon.co.uk> | X5O!P%@AP[4PZX54(P^)7CC)7}$EICAR-STANDARD-ANTIVIRUS-TEST-FILE!$H+H* | and its ZIPs are the only guaranteed safe ones I use. The others are | not guaranteed to be safe. The real test is a self replicator that I | discovered by accident when compiling a nested *.exe OK. EICAR is not really a test of efficacy. Only tests that a given AV is working. -- Dave http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp
From: FromTheRafters on 3 May 2010 20:01 I'm surprised that you would use such a simplistic approach to make such a sweeping statement. A mediocre AV would appear to be the cream of the crop... ....so...I guess *that* explains it. "Stephen Wolstenholme" <steve(a)tropheus.demon.co.uk> wrote in message news:bigut5dcbghrfev38jtjo8cf04b2g2fl1i(a)4ax.com... > On Mon, 03 May 2010 13:28:24 DST, stop.nospam.gbbsg(a)shaw.ca (gufus) > wrote: > >>Hi David, >> >>Sunday May 02 2010, David H. Lipman writes to All: >> >> >> From: "Stephen Wolstenholme" <steve(a)tropheus.demon.co.uk> >> >> "...better than every other anti-virus application..." >> >> > Based upon what criteria ? >> >>I guess didn't have any hu. I always find 'millage varies". > > I missed that until you quoted. > > The criteria I use for all the anti-virus applications I have are the > same. First I make sure it finds some test viruses. Then I check using > a *.com self replicator and self modifier. Then I check the update and > scan times and resources used. > > Steve > > -- > Neural Planner Software Ltd www.NPSL1.com > EasyNN-plus. Neural Networks plus. www.easynn.com > SwingNN. Forecast with Neural Networks. www.swingnn.com > JustNN. Just Neural Networks. www.justnn.com
From: FromTheRafters on 3 May 2010 20:02 :oD ....it's worse than I thought. "Stephen Wolstenholme" <steve(a)tropheus.demon.co.uk> wrote in message news:49jut5ls8u1v9ua774m129o9mddjo1in4c(a)4ax.com... > On Mon, 3 May 2010 18:08:36 -0400, "David H. Lipman" > <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote: > >>From: "Stephen Wolstenholme" <steve(a)tropheus.demon.co.uk> >> >>| On Mon, 03 May 2010 13:28:24 DST, stop.nospam.gbbsg(a)shaw.ca (gufus) >>| wrote: >> >>>>Hi David, >> >>>>Sunday May 02 2010, David H. Lipman writes to All: >> >>>> >> From: "Stephen Wolstenholme" <steve(a)tropheus.demon.co.uk> >>>> >> "...better than every other anti-virus application..." >> >>>> > Based upon what criteria ? >> >>>>I guess didn't have any hu. I always find 'millage varies". >> >>| I missed that until you quoted. >> >>| The criteria I use for all the anti-virus applications I have are >>the >>| same. First I make sure it finds some test viruses. Then I check >>using >>| a *.com self replicator and self modifier. Then I check the update >>and >>| scan times and resources used. >> >>Name them, the test viruses. > > X5O!P%@AP[4PZX54(P^)7CC)7}$EICAR-STANDARD-ANTIVIRUS-TEST-FILE!$H+H* > and its ZIPs are the only guaranteed safe ones I use. The others are > not guaranteed to be safe. The real test is a self replicator that I > discovered by accident when compiling a nested *.exe > > Steve >
From: FromTheRafters on 3 May 2010 20:15 Avira detects it as TR/Crypt.Morphine.Gen but only after a I initiated the scan manually. Windows Defender caught it out when I saved it to the desktop as TR/Crypt.Morphine.Gen ClamWin has it as Trojan.Hacdef-29 (on demand only scanner) "gufus" <stop.nospam.gbbsg(a)shaw.ca> wrote in message news:Q8IDn.343634$K81.320849(a)newsfe18.iad... > Hello, Stephen! > > You wrote on Mon, 03 May 2010 22:45:37 +0100: > > SW> > SW> The criteria I use for all the anti-virus applications I have are > the > > That is if /YOUR/ AV lets you DL.. > > When accessing data from the URL, > "http://members.shaw.ca/kevin.klement/TEST.RAR" > a virus or unwanted program 'BDC/Hacdef.084' [backdoor] was found. > Action taken: Blocked file > > -- > With best regards, gufus. E-mail: stop.nospam.gbbsg(a)shaw.ca >
From: gufus on 3 May 2010 20:33
Hello, FromTheRafters! You wrote on Mon, 3 May 2010 20:15:59 -0400: F> Windows Defender caught it out when I saved it to the desktop as F> TR/Crypt.Morphine.Gen F> F> ClamWin has it as Trojan.Hacdef-29 (on demand only scanner) MS Defender got it here too. never/the/less /ALL/ those files are off-line now. Happy testing. -- With best regards, gufus. E-mail: stop.nospam.gbbsg(a)shaw.ca |