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From: FromTheRafters on 9 Apr 2010 20:07 "Jenn" <nope(a)noway.atnohow.anyday> wrote in message news:hpm5b5$iu1$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > > "FromTheRafters" <erratic(a)nomail.afraid.org> wrote in message > news:hpls52$35s$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >> "Jenn" <me(a)nowhere.whocareswhatthisemailisanyway> wrote in message >> news:hplkqv$j3m$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >> >>> Do you consider the natural ebb and flow of human conversation to be >>> chaos? (interesting thought) > > > >> A resemblance of order arising from the emergent behavior of entities >> in chaos. > > wow man.......... that's deep <grin> no really.. it is............. > :D > >> If the entities weren't in chaos, they would be able to stay on >> topic - being constrained as it were. > > Human nature demands that freedom allow it a choice. Nature is deaf to the demands of humans. Nature will prevail at the expense of humans. >> Entities with simple rules can display emergent behavior that appears >> complex, from the flocking of birds (boids) and schooling of fish, to >> butterfly migrations, > > That is more along the lines of innate responses than it would be > responding to simple rules. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boids >> to the lifecycles and behaviors of computer worms and viruses (which >> can carry spyware with them). This is probably why mathematical >> definitions of malware have taken a back seat to behavioral >> definitions. > > There is a simple beauty to math .. it even has it's own ebb and > flow... more or less a parallel kindred existance. Like music - the kind you must listen carefully to. >> The fact that some AV or AM application doesn't see some malware >> shouldn't really surprise anyone. > > .. nice ebb and flow there taking the conversation back to being on > topic. <wink> Nuthin' get by you, eh? :o)
From: Peter Foldes on 9 Apr 2010 20:26 So now you admit finally that you were a pilot as you always claimed in 2005\06. -- Peter Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged. "~BD~" <BoaterDave(a)hotmail.co.ukk> wrote in message news:huWdne3s0MtwUiPWnZ2dnUVZ8hSdnZ2d(a)bt.com... > Leythos wrote: >> >> People have been saying that Usenet is dying for a decade, and it's not >> any closer to dying today. >> >> You keep making excuses for not following the rules that have stood for >> a long time - you show your contempt for Usenet and the structure. > > I make *no* excuses but I do think for myself. > >> >> How can YOU feel that YOU are more important than something that was >> created and has worked well before you even learned it was here. Your >> belief that you have a right to change it tells a lot about you. >> > > > Maybe it's to do with my training as a pilot?!!! > > Ever heard this? > > "Rules are for the obeyance of fools and the guidance of wise men" > > The saying has been attributed to Sir Douglas Bader > > ^ Brickhill 1954, p. 44. Note: (also quoted as "...for the obedience of fools and > the guidance of wise men.") In Reach for the Sky, this quote is attributed to > Harry Day, the Royal Flying Corps First World War fighter ace. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Bader#cite_ref-62 > > There's a reference here in this thread (the last post, no pun intended) which > provides a good example of why pilots are taught to think for themselves rather > than blindly stick to rules. > > http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=27708 > > > HTH > > > In the UK a red light at traffic lights means 'stop'. In parts of the USA I > believe a red light allows one to "turn right on a red" - have *you* ever done > that, Leythos? I found it felt good to do that! :) > > > -- > Dave - Restraining myself from saying more!
From: Jenn on 9 Apr 2010 23:23 "FromTheRafters" <erratic(a)nomail.afraid.org> wrote in message news:hpofgv$i3e$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > "Jenn" <nope(a)noway.atnohow.anyday> wrote in message > news:hpm5b5$iu1$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >>> If the entities weren't in chaos, they would be able to stay on topic - >>> being constrained as it were. >> Human nature demands that freedom allow it a choice. > Nature is deaf to the demands of humans. Nature will prevail at the > expense of humans. If Nature were deaf, then it would have human qualities and be subject to the demand for freedom. Personification sure opens alot of doors for poetic license... :D <snip> >> There is a simple beauty to math .. it even has it's own ebb and flow... >> more or less a parallel kindred existance. > Like music - the kind you must listen carefully to. Yes... listen carefully and then closing your eyes and concentrating so you can hear the voice of one instrument at a time just to take note of its individual melodic beauty, and then returning to the piece as a whole. We are all like that, you know. We're part of the whole and at times we stand out as individuals within the symphony having our solo moment. Another point ... have you ever listened to music that has notes in it that don't seem to belong, yet, as a whole, the notes are there on purpose to create a certain mood to the piece? Again, we are all part of the whole and there are characters who play the part of dissonance.. not seeming to belong, but in the grand scheme of the entire piece totally needed and functional. <snip> >> .. nice ebb and flow there taking the conversation back to being on >> topic. <wink> > Nuthin' get by you, eh? :o) <wink> LOL -- Jenn (from Oklahoma)
From: ~BD~ on 10 Apr 2010 01:55 Peter Foldes wrote: > So now you admit finally that you were a pilot as you always claimed in > 2005\06. > Yes Peter In a nutshell - so that you cannot misunderstand:- I joined the Royal Navy as an Artificer Apprentice and studied Control Engineering. I reached Acting Petty Officer and was then commissioned. After Officer training at BRNC Dartmouth, I went to RAF Linton-on Ouse and flew Jet Provosts. Was awarded my wings after a year. Then on to advanced flying training on both twin seat and single seat Hawker Hunters. Succeeded in all. Sent for operational training on the MkII Buccaneer. A few trips, but too much for me to handle. Failed. Flying badge removed. :( Retrained as an ATCO. I was very good at that! Took advantage of reduction in level of spending on our armed services and volunteered for early retirement. Accepted. :) From thereon I was a civilian. HTH -- Dave - my story has *never* varied.
From: FromTheRafters on 10 Apr 2010 06:48
"Jenn" <nope(a)noway.atnohow.anyday> wrote in message news:hpor01$bvm$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > > "FromTheRafters" <erratic(a)nomail.afraid.org> wrote in message > news:hpofgv$i3e$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >> "Jenn" <nope(a)noway.atnohow.anyday> wrote in message >> news:hpm5b5$iu1$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > >>>> If the entities weren't in chaos, they would be able to stay on >>>> topic - being constrained as it were. > >>> Human nature demands that freedom allow it a choice. > >> Nature is deaf to the demands of humans. Nature will prevail at the >> expense of humans. > > If Nature were deaf, then it would have human qualities and be subject > to the demand for freedom. Personification sure opens alot of doors > for poetic license... :D ....and if a tree fell in the woods...? |