From: J G Miller on
On Sun, 02 May 2010 12:17:32 +0100, Brian Gaff wrote:

> So its a scandal that we sit here in the second decade of
> the next centruy without speech being standard option on
> all appliences.

The scandal was that the Vlaams company who were the world leaders
in speech recognition, Lernout & Hauspie "cooked" the books and thus
served time in prison after being found guilty of conspiracy, securities
fraud, and falsifying company records, subsequently went bankrupt.

<http://www.forbes.COM/2001/01/19/0119disaster.html>
From: J. P. Gilliver (John) on
In message <1272806049_145(a)vo.lu>, J G Miller <miller(a)yoyo.ORG> writes:
>On Sun, 02 May 2010 12:17:32 +0100, Brian Gaff wrote:
>
>> So its a scandal that we sit here in the second decade of
>> the next centruy without speech being standard option on
>> all appliences.
>
>The scandal was that the Vlaams company who were the world leaders
>in speech recognition, Lernout & Hauspie "cooked" the books and thus
>served time in prison after being found guilty of conspiracy, securities
>fraud, and falsifying company records, subsequently went bankrupt.
[]
I don't quite follow your grammar - I don't understand whether you are
talking about Vlaams or Lernout & Hauspie, or even saying whether they
are the same company.

But regardless of that: how does their alleged evil doings affect
whether speech is the standard option on all appliances? Surely they
weren't giving it away anyway?
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From: ShadowTek on
On 2010-05-02, Brian Gaff <briang1(a)blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> Well its the same with tv sets. Do you know of a current digital tv whose
> meus and program guide can be set to speak straight out of the box?

Nope, but I *did* have a perfectly good dail-operated TV from the 80s
that worked just fine until the switch to digital made it useless.

It's unfortunate that people seem to hate dail-operated devices
nowadays. Everything is just made with a bunch of smooth push-pads that
usually have zero relief to the touch.

The trade-off is that people want things that can be wiped clean with
little effort, which reminds me of an article I read recently where
someone was wailing about the continued use of white painted risers on
the steps of staircases. She was moaning about the endless scuffmarks
that had to be wiped away to satisfy her need to attain some sort of
aethetic perfection, all while being apparently oblivious (or
indifferent) to the safety concerns that the white color is intended to
address. :/
From: ShadowTek on
On 2010-05-02, burt henry <burt1iband(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> I have not heard of such, but please explain what you want to do.
> What do you want from your BIOS?

Oh, I want to do everything. I want complete access to all functions.

I'm not trying to do something specific at the moment, if that's what
you mean.
From: J G Miller on
On Sun, 02 May 2010 15:20:06 +0100, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:

> I don't quite follow your grammar - I don't understand whether you are
> talking about Vlaams or Lernout & Hauspie, or even saying whether they
> are the same company.

Yes it did come across as a little garbled - Vlaams is being used as an
adjective to denote the geographical location of the company, as
in being based in Vlaanderen.

The company was Lernout & Hauspie and the the two founders Lernout
and Hauspie went to prison.

> But regardless of that: how does their alleged evil doings affect
> whether speech is the standard option on all appliances?

Because they were leading the pack and providing momentum to the
development and implementation of speech and speech recognition
on devices. Once they left the scene, and also coupled it must
be stressed with the "dot bomb" techological industry recession
speech and speech recognition software was passed over by
investors as being a profitable area to develop.

And as you should well be aware, once a core team of highly
capable people are dispersed, the technological skills and
knowledge are lost.

For more information about the company, please see

<http://en.wikipedia.ORG/wiki/Lernout_&_Hauspie>