BIOS infection - an item for discussion
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From: ~BD~ on 15 Jun 2010 12:32 "Heather" <lainie(a)nowhere.invalid> explained that she is just bright enough to recognise a 'cut and pasted' item ........ For which I thank her! :) I thought it would have been obvious to just about anyone - even Heather! Seems as if I was right! -- Dave BD
From: FromTheRafters on 15 Jun 2010 13:47 "Heather" <lainie(a)nowhere.invalid> wrote in message news:hv88kr$tpa$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >>> http://www.phrack.org/archives/66/p66_0x07_Persistent%20BIOS%20infection_by_aLS%20and%20Alfredo.txt >> >> Is there a question? > > Is there an answer?? Love is the answer. ....this is just a delicious recipe for Linux Alfredo - ymmmm, needs noodles though.
From: FromTheRafters on 15 Jun 2010 14:04 "~BD~" <.BoaterDave(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message news:hv89gk$9mf$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > > "FromTheRafters" <erratic(a)nomail.afraid.org> wrote in message > news:hv7olu$5lh$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > %20and%20Alfredo.txt >> >> Is there a question? > > I've recently attended a boating rally. One of my fellow boaters is a > 'guru' who works for IBM here in the UK. I asked him a simple > question:- > > Can viruses/malware reside inside a computer somewhere other than on > the hard disk? > > His immediate answer was ......... "Yes. In the BIOS". He may not understand what including the term "viruses" has done to your question. Can malware reside.... ? Yes. > My question to you, FTR, is why do folk not discuss this in the > relevant Usenet groups? Because it spreads fear, uncertainty, and doubt. Just because it is *possible* to do, doesn't mean it is something that the average user need worry about. The kind of folks that do need to worry about such things are already aware of the flashable firmware vectors.
From: ~BD~ on 15 Jun 2010 15:29 "FromTheRafters" <erratic(a)nomail.afraid.org> wrote in message news:hv8fbm$mdv$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > He may not understand what including the term "viruses" has done to > your question. Can malware reside.... ? Yes. Semantics, perhaps? >> My question to you, FTR, is why do folk not discuss this in the >> relevant Usenet groups? > > Because it spreads fear, uncertainty, and doubt. Just because it is > *possible* to do, doesn't mean it is something that the average user > need worry about. The kind of folks that do need to worry about such > things are already aware of the flashable firmware vectors. Hmmm! No doubt you will review the response made by Peter Foldes. "Average users" are *not* reading groups such as this (IMO!) Thank you for agreeing (at long last!) FTR, that the BIOS *can* be infected! Perhaps you will suggest in what manner this might be achieved in practice? Would simply clicking on a link achieve same? -- Dave -- Dave
From: David H. Lipman on 15 Jun 2010 17:17
From: "~BD~" <.BoaterDave(a)hotmail.co.uk> | "FromTheRafters" <erratic(a)nomail.afraid.org> wrote in message | news:hv8fbm$mdv$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >> He may not understand what including the term "viruses" has done to >> your question. Can malware reside.... ? Yes. | Semantics, perhaps? >>> My question to you, FTR, is why do folk not discuss this in the >>> relevant Usenet groups? >> Because it spreads fear, uncertainty, and doubt. Just because it is >> *possible* to do, doesn't mean it is something that the average user >> need worry about. The kind of folks that do need to worry about such >> things are already aware of the flashable firmware vectors. | Hmmm! No doubt you will review the response made by Peter Foldes. | "Average users" are *not* reading groups such as this (IMO!) | Thank you for agreeing (at long last!) FTR, that the BIOS *can* be | infected! | Perhaps you will suggest in what manner this might be achieved in | practice? Would simply clicking on a link achieve same? In practice -- it isn't and that why we do NOT see this! BD - FUD master. -- Dave http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp |