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From: Henri Wilson on 11 Oct 2005 18:24 On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 21:33:30 +0100, "George Dishman" <george(a)briar.demon.co.uk> wrote: > ><jgreen(a)seol.net.au> wrote in message >news:1129022542.245488.163810(a)g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >> > >When did I do that? I don't think we ever talked about >the colour of light bulb, did we? > >> and WHERE in SR does it say that the shortenning of the train >> ALSO involves the ceiling approaching the floor???????????????? >> SR is ONE directional; >> An airplane changes its note as it flies over because the distance to >> it alters; a helicopter hoverring above at constant altitude does NOT >> exhibit a different note than if on the ground below. >> You need to understand the CAUSE of doppler ref emr; it is due to >> relative velocity of the emr particles, not magical >> frequency/wavelength changes. > >Jim, I'm curious about how you think this would work. >Blow into a whistle and you get a note. Put the whistle >on a string and whirl it round your head so that it is >always the same distance from your ear. Do you think >the note would be the same or different? > >I wonder what Henri would say. Assuming the air around you remains still, the pitch would be lower if your head was also spinning in the same direction. > >George > HW. www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/index.htm see: www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/variablestars.exe "Sometimes I feel like a complete failure. The most useful thing I have ever done is prove Einstein wrong".
From: "Androcles" <Androcles@ on 11 Oct 2005 18:41 "Henri Wilson" <H@..> wrote in message news:ltaok1pabo7k3vsfguskdetjk2g8q7ucds(a)4ax.com... | On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 08:57:08 GMT, "Androcles" <Androcles@ MyPlace.org> wrote: | >I was actually having a dig at Wilson, whose crackpot ideas of | >"Wilson Cool Heavies" for planets and his "h-aether theory" have | >not been retracted, nor his 1/2 spirals that he calls ellipses.Wilson | >is not about to 'fess up and admit he was wrong. | >Wilson is out of line, a loose cannon. | | So loose in fact that not only has he jointly discovered the planet | "Wilson-Androcles" that orbits Algol but he has now also found the Star | "Wilsonius" that lies at the 60 degree Lagrange point in the orbit of S Cas. | Message-ID: <l5dmi117vd3vc1h0f6mspju1ncikkopslq(a)4ax.com> From: H@..(Henri Wilson) Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: GPS 'GR Correction' Myth. Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 22:00:02 GMT It appears that Algol is a large star which wobbles around its barycentre with the planet, "Androcles", named after its discoverer. Not only has Wilson given prior acknowledgement my discovery, but he is now on record as claiming joint discovery and claiming a massive body can be a Trojan. Perhaps he ought to rethink his position, plagiarism is generally frowned upon on the scientific community. Etymology: plagiary transitive senses : to steal and pass off (the ideas or words of another) as one's own : use (another's production) without crediting the source intransitive senses : to commit literary theft : present as new and original an idea or product derived from an existing source I think that makes it quite clear who has the professional jealousy. Androcles.
From: "Androcles" <Androcles@ on 11 Oct 2005 19:59 "Henri Wilson" <H@..> wrote in message news:v5eok157a0e6b2o40i16frkos5cosmshjk(a)4ax.com... | On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 13:53:36 GMT, "Androcles" <Androcles@ MyPlace.org> wrote: | | > | >"Henri Wilson" <H@..> wrote in message | >news:k35nk15294dgrh1g11ggoqqvpiibjhkvjh(a)4ax.com... | >| On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 09:43:54 GMT, "Androcles" <Androcles@ MyPlace.org> | >wrote: | >| | >| > | | >| >Dishman is a idiot, he thinks the speed of light is infinite when | >| >the permittivity and permeability of a medium falls to zero. | >| >Obviously he's an aetherialist, like Wilson. | >| | >| Hey, watch it A. | >| | >| I'm a H-aetherist. | >| | >| Big difference! | > | >Not to light there isn't. | >Here's a list of pictures. Indicate which one has you fairy dust and | >explain why. | >You can keep the list, I'm a wizard, it's magic, it'll grow longer each | >day. | > http://mathworld.wolfram.com/CauchyFunctionalEquation.html | > | >Oops, sorry. That's adult material. | >You won't understand that...don't let Bilge see it, it's pornography to | >him. | > | >Here it is... | >Not h-eather, suitable for 5-year-kids: | > http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html | | not bad. Yes, but point out the pictures that indicated h-aether. Is it this one? http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap050719.html or this one: http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap050725.html or maybe this one? http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap050805.html Explanation: Although it looks like fiction, this artist's vision of sunset on an alien world is based on fact -- the recent discovery of a hot, jupiter-sized planet orbiting in triple star system HD 188753. Only 149 light-years away in the constellation Cygnus, HD 188553's massive planet was detected by astronomer Maciej Konacki after analyzing detailed spectroscopic data from the Keck Observatory. The large planet itself is depicted at the upper left in this imagined view from the well-illuminated surface of a hypothetical rocky moon. From this perspective, the closest, hottest and most massive star in the triple system, a star only a little hotter than the Sun, has set below distant peaks. The two other suns nearing the horizon are both cooler and farther from the large planet. While other hot, jupiter-like planets are known to orbit nearby stars, the "crowded" multiple star nature of this system challenges current theories of planet formation. Call up NASA and tell them HD 188553's massive planet is called a "Wilson Cool Heavy". (Progress report...written by a 5yo kid.) Big difference. Oh, and tell NASA the triple system is Lagrangian, one of the stars is 60 degrees from the other. | > | >h-aether: | > http://imaginary_nematode.home.comcast.net/papers/Alvager_et_al_1964.pdf | | The mesons were at rest in the Be when they decayed. No they weren't. Nor are ions that emit photons in the sun. | the speed of hte gamma rays is measured wrt the Be block. | Naturally it should be c. Correct. The permittivity and permeability of Be takes over once the photon is released, the permeability and permittivity of the vacuum is zero and no longer responsible. That's NOT your discovery, though. You invented h-aether (recorded at www.crank.net) and Wilson Cool Heavies. I discovered the planets orbiting Algol and delta-Ceph. Androcles.
From: Henri Wilson on 11 Oct 2005 20:37 On Wed, 12 Oct 2005 08:17:53 +1000, Timo Nieminen <timo(a)physics.uq.edu.au> wrote: >On Tue, 11 Oct 2005, it was written: > >> Tell me, where in Maxwell's equations is there an inference that light moves at >> the value of 'c', particularly wrt anything but the apparatus that measures the >> constants? > >OK, write down the Maxwell equations in source-free free space. Substitute >eE and mH for D and B (where e and m are the permittivity and >permeability). Take either of the curl equations, take the curl of both >sides. Since E and H are divergence-free, then you can convert the >curl curl into a Laplacian. What equation do you have? > >Repeat for the time-harmonic Maxwell equations. What equation do you have? > >Notice that neither of the above equations has anything about the velocity >of the source in it. Note that the variables in the above equations are >E(r,t) and H(r,t). What is the coordinate system in which r is specified? > >What do the above equations tell you about the propagation speed of EM >waves? You completely fail to see the point. With respect to WHAT is this propagation speed? The apparatus..or the 'aether'? > >As for the 2nd part of your question, if two apparatuses that are moving >relative to each other measure the same e and m, then, unless the Maxwell >equations are wrong, then EM waves must travel at 1/sqrt(em) in >coordinate systems in which either apparatus is at rest. From whence, >special relativity. Sorry, from whence LET. >Showing the Maxwell equations are wrong is a good first step towards >showing that your theory of EM wave propagation is correct. Also a good >first step towards falsifying special relativity, if you're into that kind >of thing. Maxwell's equations produce a value for the universal constant c, in space that is NOT a perfect vacuum. > >> The universal constant 'c' just happens to have dimensions of speed. Physically >> speaking, all speeds must be defined relative to something. > >Of course. Velocity is dr/dt, the position vector r requires a coordinate >system. So what do you think Maxwell's reference is? > >> Where is Maxwell's theory, is that reference? Was it the 'aether'? > >In Maxwell's original theory, it was the ether. In modern classical >electrodynamics, any inertial coordinate system will do. Meaningless ... Never proven. You are merely quoting the second postulate of Einstein. >> The statement, "the speed of light is c" is physically meaningless. > >Strictly speaking, yes. How about "the speed of light is c relative to ><object X>" or "the speed of light is c in <coordinate system X>"? The >short form, if used, should be taken to mean one of those. Never proven. Nobody has ever (convincingly ) measured the speed of light from a moving source. My suggested OWLS comparison experiment involves a moon relay station and a space capsule that is traveling very rapidly away from Earth (say 0.0001c). With the Earth observer, Moon and capsule roughly in line, sharp pulses are sent from the latter towards Earth, say one every five seconds. As they pass the edge of the moon, the receiver/transmitter there picks up each pulse and immediately (more correctly, after a small and known delay) transmits a similar pulse to earth. The direct pulses travel at 0.9999c towards Earth, those from the moon, at c. If the BaTh is correct then the arrival time difference on Earth should be about 1.3 x 0.0001 secs or 130 us...which should be easily detectable. HW. www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/index.htm see: www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/variablestars.exe "Sometimes I feel like a complete failure. The most useful thing I have ever done is prove Einstein wrong".
From: Henri Wilson on 11 Oct 2005 20:43
On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 22:41:01 GMT, "Androcles" <Androcles@ MyPlace.org> wrote: > >"Henri Wilson" <H@..> wrote in message >news:ltaok1pabo7k3vsfguskdetjk2g8q7ucds(a)4ax.com... >| On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 08:57:08 GMT, "Androcles" <Androcles@ MyPlace.org> >wrote: >| >I was actually having a dig at Wilson, whose crackpot ideas of >| >"Wilson Cool Heavies" for planets and his "h-aether theory" have >| >not been retracted, nor his 1/2 spirals that he calls ellipses.Wilson >| >is not about to 'fess up and admit he was wrong. >| >Wilson is out of line, a loose cannon. >| >| So loose in fact that not only has he jointly discovered the planet >| "Wilson-Androcles" that orbits Algol but he has now also found the >Star >| "Wilsonius" that lies at the 60 degree Lagrange point in the orbit of >S Cas. >| > >Message-ID: <l5dmi117vd3vc1h0f6mspju1ncikkopslq(a)4ax.com> >From: H@..(Henri Wilson) >Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity >Subject: Re: GPS 'GR Correction' Myth. >Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 22:00:02 GMT >It appears that Algol is a large star which wobbles around its >barycentre with >the planet, "Androcles", named after its discoverer. > > >Not only has Wilson given prior acknowledgement my discovery, but he is >now on record as claiming joint discovery and claiming a massive body >can be a Trojan. > >Perhaps he ought to rethink his position, plagiarism is generally >frowned upon on the scientific community. >Etymology: plagiary >transitive senses : to steal and pass off (the ideas or words of >another) as one's own : use (another's production) without crediting the >source >intransitive senses : to commit literary theft : present as new and >original an idea or product derived from an existing source > >I think that makes it quite clear who has the professional jealousy. OK A. Just joking. You can have "Androcles" all to yourself. I will retain "Wilsonius", which is far more interesting than 'Androcles' anyway. > >Androcles. > HW. www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/index.htm see: www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/variablestars.exe "Sometimes I feel like a complete failure. The most useful thing I have ever done is prove Einstein wrong". |