From: Henri Wilson on
On Sun, 18 Sep 2005 11:33:34 +0100, "George Dishman" <george(a)briar.demon.co.uk>
wrote:

>
>"bz" <bz+sp(a)ch100-5.chem.lsu.edu> wrote in message
>news:Xns96D52E8A7B8D7WQAHBGMXSZHVspammote(a)130.39.198.139...
>> H@..(Henri Wilson) wrote in
>> news:uq2ki19gafgv7loe21fhv9v8s4hhpq4808(a)4ax.com:
>>
>>> On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 23:02:26 +0100, "George Dishman"
>>> <george(a)briar.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>> I left out the '1'.
>>> see www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/group1.jpg
>>
>> Better, but I see significant phase shift from cycle to cycle.
>> Such could not occur with orbiting bodies.
>>
>> However, such phase shifts ARE common to relaxation oscillators.
>>
>> Those plots are excellent evidence against WHC and for huff and puff.
>
>What is still missing is his predicted velocity
>curves. Will the phase match or be 90 degrees
>out? How about the shape? Having matched the
>brightness, most of his free parameters should
>be defined so now the spectroscopic evidence
>is getting to be a sensible test.

The problem, George, is that reliable velocity data is practically nonexistant.

>
>George
>


HW.
www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/index.htm

Sometimes I feel like a complete failure.
The most useful thing I have ever done is prove Einstein wrong.
From: Henri Wilson on
On Sun, 18 Sep 2005 09:32:37 +0000 (UTC), bz <bz+sp(a)ch100-5.chem.lsu.edu>
wrote:

>H@..(Henri Wilson) wrote in
>news:uq2ki19gafgv7loe21fhv9v8s4hhpq4808(a)4ax.com:
>
>> On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 23:02:26 +0100, "George Dishman"
>> <george(a)briar.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> I left out the '1'.
>> see www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/group1.jpg
>
>Better, but I see significant phase shift from cycle to cycle.
>Such could not occur with orbiting bodies.

If you read the comments about these brightness curves, you will learn that
they are somewhat vague. They are usually based a collection of independent
observations from different observers and are often affected by weather
conditions.

>
>However, such phase shifts ARE common to relaxation oscillators.
>
>Those plots are excellent evidence against WHC and for huff and puff.

.....and that statement is evidence that you are a hopelessly brainwashed fool.


HW.
www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/index.htm

Sometimes I feel like a complete failure.
The most useful thing I have ever done is prove Einstein wrong.
From: "Androcles" <Androcles@ on

"Paul B. Andersen" <paul.b.andersen(a)deletethishia.no> wrote in message
news:dgkgdc$dac$1(a)dolly.uninett.no...

| Sagnac falsifies the ballistic theory.

LOL!
The tusselad will believe anything.

t0, light leaves A, goes to B and C, Sagnac turns.
AC
BD

t1, light arrives B and C, Sagnac turns.
CD
AB

t2, light arrives D both ways, meets itself.
DB
CA
In the frame of the turntable, the light went from A to D, two sides
of the square.

In the frame of the observer, one ray went around four sides
of the square, the other stayed in the top left corner.
Sagnac proves Andersen is a tusselad.
Androcles.








From: George Dishman on

"Henri Wilson" <H@..> wrote in message
news:flori1lbs52ae651pqqnoskr6ji6r4upin(a)4ax.com...
> On Sun, 18 Sep 2005 11:33:34 +0100, "George Dishman"
> <george(a)briar.demon.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"bz" <bz+sp(a)ch100-5.chem.lsu.edu> wrote in message
>>news:Xns96D52E8A7B8D7WQAHBGMXSZHVspammote(a)130.39.198.139...
>>> H@..(Henri Wilson) wrote in
>>> news:uq2ki19gafgv7loe21fhv9v8s4hhpq4808(a)4ax.com:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 23:02:26 +0100, "George Dishman"
>>>> <george(a)briar.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I left out the '1'.
>>>> see www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/group1.jpg
>>>
>>> Better, but I see significant phase shift from cycle to cycle.
>>> Such could not occur with orbiting bodies.
>>>
>>> However, such phase shifts ARE common to relaxation oscillators.
>>>
>>> Those plots are excellent evidence against WHC and for huff and puff.
>>
>>What is still missing is his predicted velocity
>>curves. Will the phase match or be 90 degrees
>>out? How about the shape? Having matched the
>>brightness, most of his free parameters should
>>be defined so now the spectroscopic evidence
>>is getting to be a sensible test.
>
> The problem, George, is that reliable velocity data is practically
> nonexistant.

That doesn't stop you showing the prediction
from your program on your web page. It sounds
as though you want to see the measurements
first so that you can 'massage' your results.

George


From: bz on
H@..(Henri Wilson) wrote in
news:bnori1972nes8ps891m3p12hm4s2mdmt5d(a)4ax.com:

> On Sun, 18 Sep 2005 09:32:37 +0000 (UTC), bz
> <bz+sp(a)ch100-5.chem.lsu.edu> wrote:
>
>>H@..(Henri Wilson) wrote in
>>news:uq2ki19gafgv7loe21fhv9v8s4hhpq4808(a)4ax.com:
>>
>>> On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 23:02:26 +0100, "George Dishman"
>>> <george(a)briar.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>> I left out the '1'.
>>> see www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/group1.jpg
>>
>>Better, but I see significant phase shift from cycle to cycle.
>>Such could not occur with orbiting bodies.
>
> If you read the comments about these brightness curves, you will learn
> that they are somewhat vague. They are usually based a collection of
> independent observations from different observers and are often affected
> by weather conditions.

Nonetheless, such 'vagueness' is unlikely to produce the PHASE shifts that
are clearly visible. They can produce amplitude variation (which is NOT the
problem) but not phase shifts.

>

>>However, such phase shifts ARE common to relaxation oscillators.

>>Those plots are excellent evidence against WHC and for huff and puff.


> ....and that statement is evidence that you are a hopelessly brainwashed
> fool.

Momma told me not to call people names because such behavior reflected back
upon me and made people think she did a poor job raising me.

--
bz

please pardon my infinite ignorance, the set-of-things-I-do-not-know is an
infinite set.

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