From: Pegasus [MVP] on
If you have no idea what Windows server is about then you should pick up
some training or read some text book on the subject first, before committing
yourself to buying and installing it. Without sound knowledge you either
waste your time and money (at best) or you cause a disaster at your
workplace (at worst). Running a server without being suitably trained is
like driving a bus while having only an ordinary car driver's licence. A lot
of people might depend on you.

"TMA" <tma(a)tmasoftwares.com> wrote in message
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> As I said, I have absolutely NO idea of what Windows Server is all about.
> I was just asking if the mentioned software would be compatible and if it
> would behave like any other OS like Windows XP Pro.
> In case positive, I will download the .iso and install it.
>
> Thanks for the reply.
>
> "Dusko Savatovic" <savatovic(a)nospam.gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:OuRa6aa9KHA.2248(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> TMA,
>>
>> You are asking somebody else to do your homework.
>>
>> You may start by downloading evaluation instalation media (.iso) files.
>> You may also test on-line by completing some on-line Windows Virtual
>> labs.
>> You may download vhd files that run inside free Hyper-V Server or
>> eval/full Windows Server 2008 R2 with Hyper-V role.
>>
>> You may also hire a professional who will do your testing for a fee.
>>
>> DuskoS
>>
>>
>> "TMA" <tma(a)tmasoftwares.com> wrote in message
>> news:#303p7V9KHA.5808(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> Hello, I have never seen or used Windows Server and I have a few basic
>>> questions before switching Windows XP Pro into WS 2008 R2.
>>>
>>> Will I be able to install and use other softwares normally as if I was
>>> using Windows XP? I have other servers I would like to use with it and I
>>> need to know in advance if they will be 100% compatible:
>>>
>>> Oracle XE 10g
>>> MySQL (latest version)
>>> Apache 2.2
>>> FileZilla server
>>> Windows Media Player 12 sharing
>>> Ultra VNC
>>>
>>>
>>> So, please let me know if the above software would be OK and besides
>>> that, I would have to test some programs I develop by myself, so I need
>>> to know if WS would behave just like Windows XP (ie. Windows registry
>>> access, file access, windows api functions, etc).
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>>
From: Peter Foldes on
TMA

All I can tell you is that if you need to use a server as you are planning to, then
study up on it before committing to it's use. A Server is not like XP or Vista or
Win 7. It is a completely different environment

--
Peter

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"TMA" <tma(a)tmasoftwares.com> wrote in message
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> Hello, I have never seen or used Windows Server and I have a few basic questions
> before switching Windows XP Pro into WS 2008 R2.
>
> Will I be able to install and use other softwares normally as if I was using
> Windows XP? I have other servers I would like to use with it and I need to know in
> advance if they will be 100% compatible:
>
> Oracle XE 10g
> MySQL (latest version)
> Apache 2.2
> FileZilla server
> Windows Media Player 12 sharing
> Ultra VNC
>
>
> So, please let me know if the above software would be OK and besides that, I would
> have to test some programs I develop by myself, so I need to know if WS would
> behave just like Windows XP (ie. Windows registry access, file access, windows
> api functions, etc).
>
> Thanks in advance.

From: Pegasus [MVP] on


"Peter Foldes" <maci252211(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> TMA
>
> All I can tell you is that if you need to use a server as you are planning
> to, then study up on it before committing to it's use. A Server is not
> like XP or Vista or Win 7. It is a completely different environment
>
> --
> Peter

Well, not really. Superfically a server looks much the same as a WinXP or
Windows 7 PC. The major differences are:
- A server has many additional and highly complex functions.
- A server administrator must be fully aware of how to install and maintain
a safe, robust and secure data processing environment.

From: TMA on
"Pegasus [MVP]" <news(a)microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> If you have no idea what Windows server is about then you should pick up
> some training or read some text book on the subject first, before
> committing yourself to buying and installing it. Without sound knowledge
> you either waste your time and money (at best) or you cause a disaster at
> your workplace (at worst). Running a server without being suitably trained
> is like driving a bus while having only an ordinary car driver's licence.
> A lot of people might depend on you.

I think I didn't make myself clear in my previous posts, so I will try to
explain myself a little better.
I am a programmer (oracle, mysql, php, java, delphi and c++) for 15+ years.
I used to work with Unix and NT servers for over a decade in the past, so I
guess I AM used with "servers" and I know what they're for. No, this is not
a workplace, and no, this is not going to cause any "disaster" and no, I'm
not going to spend my money. I just intended to download the trial version
for a few days and test to see if it will be good for what I intend to do
with it.
That said, if you pay close attention to what I asked, you will notice that
all the programs I listed are server-side applications. So, since this OS is
named MS "SERVER" I thought maybe databases and http/ftp/vnc servers would
be included in the "server" nomenclature. I was just making sure before
downloading it.
So, this is a HOME environment and I want to share my own videos and
pictures and music around the other computers in the house as well as
install http/ftp/vnc servers inside this home network. I tried windows XP
but it seems to be tricky with WMP v11 and my Sony Bravia TV won't recognize
its videos (even though WMP v12 with Win7 works fine). I was wondering if
Windows Server would be any better for that specific task as well as the
other apps mentioned above.

Thanks in advance.

From: TMA on
> I'll agree with Pegasus... but add some more info for you: A server is
> no place to run applications. You can, most do work. But, it's the
> wrong environment. A server has an intended purpose - if you want it
> to be fast and work well as a server, keep applications off it and use
> it for what it was intended for.

None of the programs I listed in my questions could be considered
"applications" since they are all server-side listeners. I will repeat them
for better comprehension:

Oracle XE 10g (database SERVER for oracle)
MySQL (latest version) (another database SERVER)
Apache 2.2 (http SERVER)
FileZilla server (ftp SERVER)
Windows Media Player 12 sharing (media SERVER)
Ultra VNC (vnc SERVER)

..... all are SERVERS.


> That said: very few application software packages and/or hardware
> drivers come with Windows Server software listed as "compatible"
> unless they are intended for a server. Free "home only" versions of
> programs do not typically run on Servers as they expect you to by the
> professional version. Some packages you purchase won't install because
> the programmers coded the software to look for a specific OS version
> and they don't often include the servers - even though the servers
> have the same rough OS as the desktop packages.

I know all that, I was just wanting to know about Windows Server 2008
specifically, since I have never seen it running.