From: Fred Bartoli on
John Fields a �crit :
> On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 08:53:46 -0700, John Larkin
> <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 15:04:46 +0100, "markp" <map.nospam(a)f2s.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> If I had a Baxandall class D resonant oscillator, would it be possible by
>>> modulating the current input to the drive circuit to produce a rounded off
>>> triangle like waveform?
>>>
>>> Bill Sloman's excellent work
>>> http://home.planet.nl/~sloma000/Baxandall%20parallel-resonant%20Class-D%20oscillator1.htm
>>> found that the odd harmonic distortion was caused mainly by the AC ripple
>>> current flowing through the source inductor (and hence the driving
>>> windings). This presumably causes a perturbation in the dB/dt of the flux
>>> which modifies the output waveform.
>>>
>>> So would it be possible (in theory) by controlling this drive current more
>>> accurately to produce a rounded off triangle waveform without losing all the
>>> efficiencies and advantages of a resonant class D oscillator?
>>>
>>> Mark.
>>>
>> Doesn't this work?
>>
>> ftp://jjlarkin.lmi.net/Triangle_Cap.JPG
>
> ---
> Sorry, not even close.
>
> Not at Mark's frequency and cap spec, at any rate.
>

But it does.

Even with real switches and inductor...


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--
Thanks,
Fred.
From: ehsjr on
John Devereux wrote:
> John Larkin <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> writes:
>
>
>>On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 15:04:46 +0100, "markp" <map.nospam(a)f2s.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hi All,
>>>
>>>If I had a Baxandall class D resonant oscillator, would it be possible by
>>>modulating the current input to the drive circuit to produce a rounded off
>>>triangle like waveform?
>>>
>>>Bill Sloman's excellent work
>>>http://home.planet.nl/~sloma000/Baxandall%20parallel-resonant%20Class-D%20oscillator1.htm
>>>found that the odd harmonic distortion was caused mainly by the AC ripple
>>>current flowing through the source inductor (and hence the driving
>>>windings). This presumably causes a perturbation in the dB/dt of the flux
>>>which modifies the output waveform.
>>>
>>>So would it be possible (in theory) by controlling this drive current more
>>>accurately to produce a rounded off triangle waveform without losing all the
>>>efficiencies and advantages of a resonant class D oscillator?
>>>
>>>Mark.
>>>
>>
>>Doesn't this work?
>>
>>ftp://jjlarkin.lmi.net/Triangle_Cap.JPG
>>
>>What's interesting is that, once it's all going, the power supply can
>>be cranked down to zero and you can make the triangle forever, for
>>free, since the ideal circuit is lossless. The slopes are technically
>>segments of sine waves, not linear bits, so there will be some small
>>curvature, less as L gets bigger. Given a real inductor, simple tweaks
>>could make the slopes straight.
>
>
> Nice!
>
> Though why you would want to put a triangle across a cap in the first
> place is a bit of a mystery :)
>

It's the schematic symbol for a new chip they're developing for
Robocop, called the COPAmp

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