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From: vsevolod afanassiev on 28 Jan 2010 21:30 Thanks for this information. It seems that there are 4 lines in this view for each session. If session connected through listener then first line has network_service_banner = 'TCP/IP NT Protocal Adapter' If session connected through Bequeath then first line has network_service_banner = 'Oracle Bequeath Network Protocol Adapter' What's about next 3 lines? They start from 'Oracle Advanced Security...' - I thought that Advanced Security is separately licensed option - and we don't even install it!
From: Shakespeare on 29 Jan 2010 04:47 Op 29-1-2010 3:30, vsevolod afanassiev schreef: > Thanks for this information. It seems that there are 4 lines in this > view for each session. > If session connected through listener then first line has > network_service_banner = 'TCP/IP NT Protocal Adapter' > If session connected through Bequeath then first line has > network_service_banner = 'Oracle Bequeath Network Protocol Adapter' > > What's about next 3 lines? They start from 'Oracle Advanced > Security...' - I thought that > Advanced Security is separately licensed option - and we don't even > install it! > > > Then maybe your DBA forgot to deactivate it. If you don't do so, the License Police may require you to pay the license.... even if you NEVER used it. Shakespeare
From: joel garry on 29 Jan 2010 12:17 On Jan 29, 1:47 am, Shakespeare <what...(a)xs4all.nl> wrote: > Op 29-1-2010 3:30, vsevolod afanassiev schreef:> Thanks for this information. It seems that there are 4 lines in this > > view for each session. > > If session connected through listener then first line has > > network_service_banner = 'TCP/IP NT Protocal Adapter' > > If session connected through Bequeath then first line has > > network_service_banner = 'Oracle Bequeath Network Protocol Adapter' > > > What's about next 3 lines? They start from 'Oracle Advanced > > Security...' - I thought that > > Advanced Security is separately licensed option - and we don't even > > install it! > > Then maybe your DBA forgot to deactivate it. If you don't do so, the > License Police may require you to pay the license.... even if you NEVER > used it. > > Shakespeare Hmmm, I see the four entries per connection, but I don't see anything about Advanced Security in DBA_FEATURE_USAGE_STATISTICS or V_$OPTION (10.2.0.4). Maybe this is evidence of one of those things that are there for Oracle internal usage but not generally seen unless you install it? I don't have an Advanced Security to check. Given the high visibility of security issues, I would hope the base product would be secure... jg -- @home.com is bogus. The perfectability of spam http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20527446.000-to-beat-spam-turn-its-own-weapons-against-it.html?haasFormId=46aa9eea-8158-4b87-8d70-3994c2a1bd64&haasPage=0
From: Maxim Demenko on 29 Jan 2010 14:10 On 29.01.2010 18:17, joel garry wrote: > On Jan 29, 1:47 am, Shakespeare<what...(a)xs4all.nl> wrote: >> Op 29-1-2010 3:30, vsevolod afanassiev schreef:> Thanks for this information. It seems that there are 4 lines in this >>> view for each session. >>> If session connected through listener then first line has >>> network_service_banner = 'TCP/IP NT Protocal Adapter' >>> If session connected through Bequeath then first line has >>> network_service_banner = 'Oracle Bequeath Network Protocol Adapter' >> >>> What's about next 3 lines? They start from 'Oracle Advanced >>> Security...' - I thought that >>> Advanced Security is separately licensed option - and we don't even >>> install it! >> >> Then maybe your DBA forgot to deactivate it. If you don't do so, the >> License Police may require you to pay the license.... even if you NEVER >> used it. >> >> Shakespeare > > Hmmm, I see the four entries per connection, but I don't see anything > about Advanced Security in DBA_FEATURE_USAGE_STATISTICS or V_$OPTION > (10.2.0.4). > > Maybe this is evidence of one of those things that are there for > Oracle internal usage but not generally seen unless you install it? I > don't have an Advanced Security to check. Given the high visibility > of security issues, I would hope the base product would be secure... > > jg > -- > @home.com is bogus. > The perfectability of spam > http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20527446.000-to-beat-spam-turn-its-own-weapons-against-it.html?haasFormId=46aa9eea-8158-4b87-8d70-3994c2a1bd64&haasPage=0 Afaik, in the base product secured is only password transfer, nothing more, if you want your data to be transferred secure, you'll need either use secure channel (ipsec,tunnel over ssh,etc) or enable advanced security option. To my knowledge, ASO is installed, if you select enterprise edition, you can only deselect it if you choose custom install. The fact, that it is not reflected in dba_feature_usage_statistics is explained in the Note 843077.1 <quote> The code changes in 10.2.0.4 has isolated Oracle Advanced Security options as a set of adapters rather than feature in the database , due to which ASO should not be seen in DBA_FEATURE_USAGE_STATISTICS itself . </quote> However, due to bug 5475037 it still may be shown there. Whether the ASO is installed, can be verified with the shell script adapters, which yield output similar to oracle$ adapters Installed Oracle Net transport protocols are: IPC BEQ TCP/IP SSL RAW SDP/IB Installed Oracle Net naming methods are: Local Naming (tnsnames.ora) Oracle Directory Naming Oracle Host Naming Error!!! Oracle Names Server Naming is not completely installed! Installed Oracle Advanced Security options are: RC4 40-bit encryption RC4 56-bit encryption RC4 128-bit encryption RC4 256-bit encryption DES40 40-bit encryption DES 56-bit encryption 3DES 112-bit encryption 3DES 168-bit encryption AES 128-bit encryption AES 192-bit encryption AES 256-bit encryption MD5 crypto-checksumming SHA-1 crypto-checksumming Kerberos v5 authentication RADIUS authentication I think, to install ASO is not a violation against license terms, if it is not used, however i'm not sure, how oracle track the usage of it (as opposite to options in dba_feature_usage_statistics). To deinstall ASO the most straightforward way would be via launch runInstaller. There is a Note 1020065.102 which describes, how to remove all external references to authentication adapters for Oracle 7.3, which basically consists of regeneration of nautab.o (the script genautab produces the code) and recompilation all oracle components (rdbms, network, etc), but, it seems, genautab is no more included since oracle 9i (in Oracle 8i it is still here), and, maybe the process doesn't fully apply to recent Oracle versions, so the Oracle Installer would be the right choice. Best regards Maxim
From: Shakespeare on 29 Jan 2010 14:17
Op 29-1-2010 20:10, Maxim Demenko schreef: > On 29.01.2010 18:17, joel garry wrote: >> On Jan 29, 1:47 am, Shakespeare<what...(a)xs4all.nl> wrote: >>> Op 29-1-2010 3:30, vsevolod afanassiev schreef:> Thanks for this >>> information. It seems that there are 4 lines in this >>>> view for each session. >>>> If session connected through listener then first line has >>>> network_service_banner = 'TCP/IP NT Protocal Adapter' >>>> If session connected through Bequeath then first line has >>>> network_service_banner = 'Oracle Bequeath Network Protocol Adapter' >>> >>>> What's about next 3 lines? They start from 'Oracle Advanced >>>> Security...' - I thought that >>>> Advanced Security is separately licensed option - and we don't even >>>> install it! >>> >>> Then maybe your DBA forgot to deactivate it. If you don't do so, the >>> License Police may require you to pay the license.... even if you NEVER >>> used it. >>> >>> Shakespeare >> >> Hmmm, I see the four entries per connection, but I don't see anything >> about Advanced Security in DBA_FEATURE_USAGE_STATISTICS or V_$OPTION >> (10.2.0.4). >> >> Maybe this is evidence of one of those things that are there for >> Oracle internal usage but not generally seen unless you install it? I >> don't have an Advanced Security to check. Given the high visibility >> of security issues, I would hope the base product would be secure... >> >> jg >> -- >> @home.com is bogus. >> The perfectability of spam >> http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20527446.000-to-beat-spam-turn-its-own-weapons-against-it.html?haasFormId=46aa9eea-8158-4b87-8d70-3994c2a1bd64&haasPage=0 >> > > Afaik, in the base product secured is only password transfer, nothing > more, if you want your data to be transferred secure, you'll need either > use secure channel (ipsec,tunnel over ssh,etc) or enable advanced > security option. To my knowledge, ASO is installed, if you select > enterprise edition, you can only deselect it if you choose custom > install. The fact, that it is not reflected in > dba_feature_usage_statistics is explained in the Note 843077.1 > <quote> > The code changes in 10.2.0.4 has isolated Oracle Advanced Security > options as a set of adapters rather than feature in the database , due > to which ASO should not be seen in DBA_FEATURE_USAGE_STATISTICS itself . > </quote> > However, due to bug 5475037 it still may be shown there. > > Whether the ASO is installed, can be verified with the shell script > adapters, which yield output similar to > > oracle$ adapters > > Installed Oracle Net transport protocols are: > > IPC > BEQ > TCP/IP > SSL > RAW > SDP/IB > > Installed Oracle Net naming methods are: > > Local Naming (tnsnames.ora) > Oracle Directory Naming > Oracle Host Naming > Error!!! Oracle Names Server Naming is not completely installed! > > Installed Oracle Advanced Security options are: > > RC4 40-bit encryption > RC4 56-bit encryption > RC4 128-bit encryption > RC4 256-bit encryption > DES40 40-bit encryption > DES 56-bit encryption > 3DES 112-bit encryption > 3DES 168-bit encryption > AES 128-bit encryption > AES 192-bit encryption > AES 256-bit encryption > MD5 crypto-checksumming > SHA-1 crypto-checksumming > Kerberos v5 authentication > RADIUS authentication > > > I think, to install ASO is not a violation against license terms, if it > is not used, however i'm not sure, how oracle track the usage of it (as > opposite to options in dba_feature_usage_statistics). > > To deinstall ASO the most straightforward way would be via launch > runInstaller. > There is a Note 1020065.102 which describes, how to remove all external > references to authentication adapters for Oracle 7.3, which basically > consists of regeneration of nautab.o (the script genautab produces the > code) and recompilation all oracle components (rdbms, network, etc), > but, it seems, genautab is no more included since oracle 9i (in Oracle > 8i it is still here), and, maybe the process doesn't fully apply to > recent Oracle versions, so the Oracle Installer would be the right choice. > > Best regards > > Maxim To my experience, Oracle LMS (License Management Services) checks if the option is unchecked in Enterprise Manager. I am not sure though, if this option still shows up there, have no installation available at the moment. For other options/packs: a check means installed means used means have to pay (according to Oracle). Shakespeare |