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From: Ant on 18 Apr 2010 13:09 On 4/16/2010 9:58 PM PT, Rod Speed typed: >>>> Am I reading this correctly that one partition can only go up to 2 >>>> TB? What do they mean by using dynamic and GPT volumes? Are these >>>> done by special drivers from third parties or do Windows (XP to the >>>> latest) support it? This is confusing since I am not an expert in >>>> this disk area. >>> >>> No, the whole partition table can only span 2TB. And, yes, >>> the "MDSOS" partition table format is what Microsoft uses, >>> even in Win 7. >> >> Using an MFT (similar to MSDOS) is one option, but Windows supports >> GPT for larger than 2TB volume sizes, at least on the server side of >> things. >> >> At the moment you can only boot from GPT volumes if your computer has >> EFI support, but this could be solved without too much difficulty by >> starting with a GPT and bringing up enough of a >> bootstrapper/bootloader to read the GPT. > > He doesnt appear to need to be able to boot from that>2TB drive. Correct. No booting off of it needed. I just using it as a portable storage device between PCs with Windows (XP to latest like 7; also be able to use it in Windows PE if needed). No Macs and Linux. -- Allah's Apostle said, "Once while a prophet amongst the prophets was taking a rest underneath a tree, an ant bit him. He, therefore, ordered that his luggage be taken away from underneath that tree and then ordered that the dwelling place of the ants should be set on fire. Allah sent him a revelation: 'Wouldn't it have been sufficient to burn a single ant (that bit you)?'" --Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Book 54, Number 536 /\___/\ Phil./Ant @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \ Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ / If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. Ant is/was listening to a song on this computer: georgem124 - PT \\ Frozen World (ID: 325313)
From: Ant on 18 Apr 2010 13:16 On 4/17/2010 4:40 AM PT, Arno typed: >>>> Ah. Are you saying RAID? That means I have to carry more than one >>>> physical drives? :( >>> >>> Yes. > >> Ugh. I guess I will have to buy more than one 2 TB drives then. > > There are some "schleppable" external RAID enclosures that > can give you more than 2TB. For example the WD" > "MyBook Studio Edition II, 4TB Quad Interface, gives you > 4TB with USB 2.0, FireWire 400, FireWire 800, eSATA at > around $500. It weights 3kg, though. Yeah, forget that idea. Easy and quick portability, with huge storage, is a key. I will just split my 2+ TB storages into pieces for each external HDD and then carry each one instead. :( > LaChi has several 4TB external drives at around $700 and $1000, > but they have very bad customer reviews at my supplier, for example > "very loud, heavy and big, designed by idiots". [sighs] > You can also get a buffalo drive station Quattro with 4 SATA > drives (hence 4 times the individual faulire risk in a RAID0), > at 6kg and around $800. > > With blank 2 disk enclosures, you need to be careful to get one > that works with 2TB drives. Apparently Sarotech has problems > with 2TB drives and really bad (i.e. no) tech support. Several > people like the AC Ryan AluBoxDuo HD51776 ONE ($90), but it > seems this one does not habe RAID and shows up as two drives. Ugh. Wow, so picky! > I think you hsould go with commodity USB drives and carry > several. They still need to be handled carefully, unless > you take notebook drives (currently up to 500GB/drive) > or do not care about killing them occasionally. Yeah, I might have to go that route. I didn't know 2 TB was the maximum/max. for portability. Are companies working on to make portable disk sizes bigger? I guess we really need MS to make a new FS. I recalled they axed that WinFS or something a few years ago (before Vista was released?) and here we are still using NTFS. >>> About 10x as expensive as HDDs. I think I recently read about >>> a 2TB model by OCZ, which was priced at $4000. > >> Ha, no way. Employer will not pay that. :) Thanks. > > Thought so ;-) :D >>>> Yeah, this is a desktop type of PCs. But remember, I will be using >>>> multiple machines. >>> >>> I think you should look for a different option, if available. >>> If not, this could be difficult. You are right up to the >>> limits for commodity hardware and software. > >> Well, these PCs are meant to be consumer types so we can't go crazy to >> be like enterprise setups. > > You only get enterprise performance with enterprise setups. > No way around that. Yea, I understand. But I am dealing with consumer environments. :/ Thanks though. For now, I am going to buy more than 2 TB external HDDs with USB2. I might not get ESATA and firewire support due to lack of consumer and small business PCs using them. Obviously, USB3 isn't mainstreamed yet and could be useful. -- "We are anthill men upon an anthill world." --Ray Bradbury /\___/\ Phil./Ant @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \ Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ / If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. Ant is/was listening to a song on this computer: georgem124 - PT \\ Frozen World (ID: 325313)
From: Juarez on 21 Apr 2010 15:47 On 16/04/2010 12:23 AM, Rod Speed wrote: > I still prefer samsungs. But that is pure fanboism and not based on any hard facts.
From: Rod Speed on 21 Apr 2010 19:13 Juarez wrote > Rod Speed wrote >> I still prefer samsungs. > But that is pure fanboism Wrong, as always. > and not based on any hard facts. It is based on the hard facts of how hot they dont get and how quiet they are, and how few are howling about major problems like you see with Seagate and WD currently.
From: Juarez on 24 Apr 2010 17:37
On 21/04/2010 4:13 PM, Rod Speed wrote: > It is based on the hard facts of how hot they dont get and how quiet they are, and how > few are howling about major problems like you see with Seagate and WD currently. > > I have 3 1TB WD Black in this PC I am using right now and have had no such issues. I have some Samsung HDDs in other PCs right now too but I bought the WD Blacks because they came highly recommended and not because they have noise or heat issues. |