From: D.M. Procida on
Richard Tobin <richard(a)cogsci.ed.ac.uk> wrote:

> In article <1jkyrnw.1lmu35jo1g1ldN%italiancar(a)gmail.com>,
> SteveH <italiancar(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >No idea, but most applications aren't really 'multitasking', it's more
> >'task switching'.
>
> What do you mean by that? "Multitasking" is an attribute of the
> operating system, not an application. Do you just mean that most
> applications don't do anything when they're not in control of the
> display?

I think in the context of iOS - by the way, what is going on with
Apple's rebarbative renaming of things in the last 10 years or so? For a
company with such an aesthetic grasp on things, calling applications
'apps', or renaming iBooks and PowerBooks 'MacBooks', or the iPhone OS
'iOS' seems such an odd thing to do - anyway, in the context of iOS, I
think that some applications can multitask (i.e. can be suspended in
their state) and some can't (and have to be restarted).

But I might be completely wrong, since I don't have an iP*.

Daniele
From: SteveH on
D.M. Procida <real-not-anti-spam-address(a)apple-juice.co.uk> wrote:

> > What do you mean by that? "Multitasking" is an attribute of the
> > operating system, not an application. Do you just mean that most
> > applications don't do anything when they're not in control of the
> > display?
>
> I think in the context of iOS - by the way, what is going on with
> Apple's rebarbative renaming of things in the last 10 years or so? For a
> company with such an aesthetic grasp on things, calling applications
> 'apps', or renaming iBooks and PowerBooks 'MacBooks', or the iPhone OS
> 'iOS' seems such an odd thing to do - anyway, in the context of iOS, I
> think that some applications can multitask (i.e. can be suspended in
> their state) and some can't (and have to be restarted).
>
> But I might be completely wrong, since I don't have an iP*.

I'm running OS4 on my 3G iPhone, with the hack to activate
multi-tasking.

I thought this would mean I could have a look at email whilst Spotify
was playing, but Spotify just goes into a suspended state and stops
playing when you switch to another app. That, to me, isn't multitasking.
--
SteveH
From: Woody on
SteveH <italiancar(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> D.M. Procida <real-not-anti-spam-address(a)apple-juice.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > > What do you mean by that? "Multitasking" is an attribute of the
> > > operating system, not an application. Do you just mean that most
> > > applications don't do anything when they're not in control of the
> > > display?
> >
> > I think in the context of iOS - by the way, what is going on with
> > Apple's rebarbative renaming of things in the last 10 years or so? For a
> > company with such an aesthetic grasp on things, calling applications
> > 'apps', or renaming iBooks and PowerBooks 'MacBooks', or the iPhone OS
> > 'iOS' seems such an odd thing to do - anyway, in the context of iOS, I
> > think that some applications can multitask (i.e. can be suspended in
> > their state) and some can't (and have to be restarted).
> >
> > But I might be completely wrong, since I don't have an iP*.
>
> I'm running OS4 on my 3G iPhone, with the hack to activate
> multi-tasking.
>
> I thought this would mean I could have a look at email whilst Spotify
> was playing, but Spotify just goes into a suspended state and stops
> playing when you switch to another app. That, to me, isn't multitasking.

The OS can multitask, the application has to request it in the context
it requires (so in spotifys case, it has to request to play audio in the
background). But they haven't got round to rewriting it to add that flag
yet.


--
Woody

www.alienrat.com
From: Jaimie Vandenbergh on
On Thu, 1 Jul 2010 21:55:32 +0100, italiancar(a)gmail.com (SteveH)
wrote:

>D.M. Procida <real-not-anti-spam-address(a)apple-juice.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> > What do you mean by that? "Multitasking" is an attribute of the
>> > operating system, not an application. Do you just mean that most
>> > applications don't do anything when they're not in control of the
>> > display?
>>
>> I think in the context of iOS - by the way, what is going on with
>> Apple's rebarbative renaming of things in the last 10 years or so? For a
>> company with such an aesthetic grasp on things, calling applications
>> 'apps', or renaming iBooks and PowerBooks 'MacBooks', or the iPhone OS
>> 'iOS' seems such an odd thing to do - anyway, in the context of iOS, I
>> think that some applications can multitask (i.e. can be suspended in
>> their state) and some can't (and have to be restarted).
>>
>> But I might be completely wrong, since I don't have an iP*.
>
>I'm running OS4 on my 3G iPhone, with the hack to activate
>multi-tasking.
>
>I thought this would mean I could have a look at email whilst Spotify
>was playing, but Spotify just goes into a suspended state and stops
>playing when you switch to another app. That, to me, isn't multitasking.

That's right, it's not multitasking. But that's by design.

That's how it would work if you use the jailbreak Backgrounder app,
which does brute-force (or standard, if you like!) multitasking.

iOS4 doesn't do that, so for an app that hasn't yet been rewritten to
handle the iOS4 background audio API, that app will just get killed
off same as any other.

Cheers - Jaimie
--
Those who live by the sword get shot by those who don't.
From: Ian McCall on
SteveH <italiancar(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I thought this would mean I could have a look at email whilst Spotify
> was playing, but Spotify just goes into a suspended state and stops
> playing when you switch to another app. That, to me, isn't
> multitasking.

Quick aside: run your App Store updates today. Spotify has just been
updated so that it works as you'd expect in the background.

Cheers,
Ian
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