From: Joerg on
Tim Wescott wrote:
> Joerg wrote:
>> GregS wrote:
>>> In article <83r249FfusU2(a)mid.individual.net>,
>>> news(a)analogconsultants.com wrote:
>>>> Jan Panteltje wrote:
>>>>> Blew the fuse in my multimeter, wanted to replace it, grabbed it, but:
>>>>> ftp://panteltje.com/pub/multimeter_fuse_img_1953.jpg
>>>>
>>>> .... but ... man, oh man ... the server is broken. Again. Can't you
>>>> get a real web hosting service? I mean, the $80 a year I pay for
>>>> 1and1.com would really be bankrupting you, would it? And that does
>>>> include the domain name fees.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I was just thinking how few people use their free webspace, which
>>> they are actually paying for
>>> through their provider. I actually found a slow instructional page
>>> plus one interesting
>>> persons use of his page for Comcast.
>>>
>>> https://publish.comcast.net/home/index/
>>>
>>> http://articulationllc.home.comcast.net/~articulationllc/sm0402.htm
>>>
>>
>> I have that as well. But it's not professional. You (usually) can't
>> have your own domain name and then AT&T pawned off much their stuff to
>> Yahoo.
>
> Yet there's a bazillion different folks who are happy to host static web
> pages for very reasonable rates (I get mine through my ISP, but that's
> just laziness).
>

Yeah, but why even bother? I know you have a business web site, and so
do I. This comes with a proper URL, meaning your own, and has a host of
other features. Many of them I'll never need but online sellers would.
Others I really need, such as multiple FTP accounts, no traffic limits,
humongous storage space, email, web mail, filtering, and so on. It's cheap.


> I use my home web page for personal stuff, like model airplane pictures
> and build blogs:
> http://www.ccwebster.net/robintim/anairplane/
> http://www.ccwebster.net/robintim/Nobler/
> http://www.ccwebster.net/robintim/Eaglet/
>

Nice :-)

Have you ever tried this stuff?

http://www.immersionrc.com/videos.htm

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From: Tim Wescott on
Joerg wrote:
> Tim Wescott wrote:
>> Joerg wrote:
>>> GregS wrote:
>>>> In article <83r249FfusU2(a)mid.individual.net>,
>>>> news(a)analogconsultants.com wrote:
>>>>> Jan Panteltje wrote:
>>>>>> Blew the fuse in my multimeter, wanted to replace it, grabbed it,
>>>>>> but:
>>>>>> ftp://panteltje.com/pub/multimeter_fuse_img_1953.jpg
>>>>>
>>>>> .... but ... man, oh man ... the server is broken. Again. Can't you
>>>>> get a real web hosting service? I mean, the $80 a year I pay for
>>>>> 1and1.com would really be bankrupting you, would it? And that does
>>>>> include the domain name fees.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I was just thinking how few people use their free webspace, which
>>>> they are actually paying for
>>>> through their provider. I actually found a slow instructional page
>>>> plus one interesting
>>>> persons use of his page for Comcast.
>>>>
>>>> https://publish.comcast.net/home/index/
>>>>
>>>> http://articulationllc.home.comcast.net/~articulationllc/sm0402.htm
>>>>
>>>
>>> I have that as well. But it's not professional. You (usually) can't
>>> have your own domain name and then AT&T pawned off much their stuff
>>> to Yahoo.
>>
>> Yet there's a bazillion different folks who are happy to host static
>> web pages for very reasonable rates (I get mine through my ISP, but
>> that's just laziness).
>>
>
> Yeah, but why even bother? I know you have a business web site, and so
> do I. This comes with a proper URL, meaning your own, and has a host of
> other features. Many of them I'll never need but online sellers would.
> Others I really need, such as multiple FTP accounts, no traffic limits,
> humongous storage space, email, web mail, filtering, and so on. It's cheap.
>
>
>> I use my home web page for personal stuff, like model airplane
>> pictures and build blogs:
>> http://www.ccwebster.net/robintim/anairplane/
>> http://www.ccwebster.net/robintim/Nobler/
>> http://www.ccwebster.net/robintim/Eaglet/
>>
>
> Nice :-)
>
> Have you ever tried this stuff?
>
> http://www.immersionrc.com/videos.htm
>
Thought about it -- but more in terms of how fun it would be to build,
not to use.

--
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Control system and signal processing consulting
www.wescottdesign.com
From: Joerg on
Jan Panteltje wrote:
> On a sunny day (Wed, 28 Apr 2010 14:03:25 -0700) it happened Joerg
> <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in <83rm55Fh2vU1(a)mid.individual.net>:

[...]

>> Anyhow, I have me site and all that hosted professionally and even when
>> a ferocious storm knocked power where the server farm is there was no
>> outage. They have their own backup power, mirror sites and so on. All
>> for around $80 a year.
>
> Why,. the server is mine, it sits here in my house, why bother with some ISP
> with a help desk that has no clue most of the time?
> Last time I had one they charged 1 guilder per minute, having no clue makes a lot of money that way :-)
>

Guilder? That must have been a looong time ago then.

My web hosting provider never charged me for support calls or emails.
Plus the computer and Internet gets shut off at night. The power savings
alone probably make up the $80/year. Although it's more like $45 because
if I had no host I'd have to pay InterNic $35 for the domain name I
guess, unless that price has come down by now.

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From: Joerg on
Joel Koltner wrote:
> "Joerg" <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in message
> news:83rtv8FoffU3(a)mid.individual.net...
>> Although it's more like $45 because if I had no host I'd have to pay
>> InterNic $35 for the domain name I guess, unless that price has come
>> down by now.
>
> It's more like $15/year for most registrars (technically the InterNic
> actually dissolved into ICANN and various registrars back in '98) --
> although it does vary if you're going through a hosting company, as some
> use it as a loss leader and some mark it up ostensibly to pay for the
> service of submitting the information.
>

That's quite a drop from a few years ago.


> When we had the last SED round of, "who's your web hosting company?"
> your guys were right there on top, price-wise...
>

Yeah, they upped the price last year, from around $60/year to $80/year.
Thought about switching but didn't want the hassle. Plus they threw in
unlimited traffic so if your site gets attacked you won't get nailed
with huge overages or a shutdown.

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From: Jan Panteltje on
On a sunny day (Wed, 28 Apr 2010 16:16:49 -0700) it happened Joerg
<invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in <83rtv8FoffU3(a)mid.individual.net>:

>Jan Panteltje wrote:
>> On a sunny day (Wed, 28 Apr 2010 14:03:25 -0700) it happened Joerg
>> <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in <83rm55Fh2vU1(a)mid.individual.net>:
>
>[...]
>
>>> Anyhow, I have me site and all that hosted professionally and even when
>>> a ferocious storm knocked power where the server farm is there was no
>>> outage. They have their own backup power, mirror sites and so on. All
>>> for around $80 a year.
>>
>> Why,. the server is mine, it sits here in my house, why bother with some ISP
>> with a help desk that has no clue most of the time?
>> Last time I had one they charged 1 guilder per minute, having no clue makes a lot of money that way :-)
>>
>
>Guilder? That must have been a looong time ago then.

More than 10 orbits around the sun.


>My web hosting provider never charged me for support calls or emails.
>Plus the computer and Internet gets shut off at night. The power savings
>alone probably make up the $80/year. Although it's more like $45 because
>if I had no host I'd have to pay InterNic $35 for the domain name I
>guess, unless that price has come down by now.

Well, if I wanted for free I could use one of those add filled sites,
and upload from my laptop via the Vodafone GPRS / HSDPA modem, - from the attic -
as the signal is completely useless downstairs.
It is great on the road though.

As that PC controls everything in the home, heating, also records satellite TV, plays audio,
runs the security cam recording 24/7, I think it is indispensable (right word?).
And you have to give it, that Tyan mobo has been running 24/7 now for 10 years :-)
The power supply is some Chinese cheap thing, need replacing now, still a decent lifetime I think.

I guess ultimately I need no internet at all.... But it is still a lot of fun.
Also any datasheet you want in seconds...