From: Joerg on
Jim Thompson wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 16:16:49 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>> Jan Panteltje wrote:
>>> On a sunny day (Wed, 28 Apr 2010 14:03:25 -0700) it happened Joerg
>>> <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in <83rm55Fh2vU1(a)mid.individual.net>:
>> [...]
>>
>>>> Anyhow, I have me site and all that hosted professionally and even when
>>>> a ferocious storm knocked power where the server farm is there was no
>>>> outage. They have their own backup power, mirror sites and so on. All
>>>> for around $80 a year.
>>> Why,. the server is mine, it sits here in my house, why bother with some ISP
>>> with a help desk that has no clue most of the time?
>>> Last time I had one they charged 1 guilder per minute, having no clue makes a lot of money that way :-)
>>>
>> Guilder? That must have been a looong time ago then.
>>
>> My web hosting provider never charged me for support calls or emails.
>> Plus the computer and Internet gets shut off at night. The power savings
>> alone probably make up the $80/year. Although it's more like $45 because
>> if I had no host I'd have to pay InterNic $35 for the domain name I
>> guess, unless that price has come down by now.
>
> GoDaddy is cheaper :-)
>

Yes, there are cheaper ones. But you have to watch it, sometimes the
deals are "... with the purchase of ...". I like peace of mind, paying
twice a year and the big hosting company takes care of everything. Also,
I am pretty selective about whom I give my credit card number to.

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From: Grant on
On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 16:11:44 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote:

>Jan Panteltje wrote:
>> On a sunny day (Wed, 28 Apr 2010 14:07:57 -0700) it happened Joerg
>> <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in <83rmdkFh2vU2(a)mid.individual.net>:
>>
>>> Jan Panteltje wrote:
>>>> On a sunny day (Wed, 28 Apr 2010 20:01:41 +0200) it happened Reinhard Zwirner
>>>> <reinhard_zwirner(a)web.de> wrote in <4BD87805.1000C16F(a)t-online.de>:
>>>>
>>>>> Joerg schrieb:
>>>>>> Jan Panteltje wrote:
>>>>>>> Blew the fuse in my multimeter, wanted to replace it, grabbed it, but:
>>>>>>> ftp://panteltje.com/pub/multimeter_fuse_img_1953.jpg
>>>>>> ... but ... man, oh man ... the server is broken. Again. ...
>>>>> <http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/12b4-5n-jpg.html>
>>>>>
>>>>> HTH
>>>>>
>>>>> Reinhard
>>>> No way can you upload pictures without power...
>>>
>>> I've done it. Ok, no pics but a schematic. In the days of our previous
>>> governor where the grid was screwed up and regular black-outs happened
>>> Romania-style. Fired up laptop, plugged in modem cable, dialed in, meep
>>> .. meep .. phssssshhhhhhhhhhhhh ... done.
>>
>> Yes, I could do that, even with DSL, I think the router needs 28 V AC though..
>> But I think I had enough of the power problems, gona order a UPS now.
>> Will google again for a Honda generator too.
>>
>
>DSL usually goes out as well when power is gone in your area. The boxes
>on the street corners are usually not on any sort of UPS scheme. But
>telco continues because it is safety-critical. However, you have to
>write down several dial-in numbers because chances are that one of them
>is also suffering an outage and I don't think they'll have the modems on
>backup power.

I have to turn off ADSL modem for > 20 minutes to let the other end
realise there's a problem and reset itself. Told to me by the ISP.

If I don't stay off for that time I get unreliable connection, many
dropouts for days! So far, the unplug modem and wait has worked every
time to regain a reliable connection after short power outage.

I used to have dialup setup in the old lappy, but recently put in a
new hard drive, must find a couple minutes to set that up again, just
in case.

Grant.
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From: mpm on
On Apr 28, 7:59 pm, "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terr...(a)earthlink.net>
wrote:
> Joerg wrote:
>
> > Jan Panteltje wrote:
> > > On a sunny day (Wed, 28 Apr 2010 14:03:25 -0700) it happened Joerg
> > > <inva...(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in <83rm55Fh2...(a)mid.individual.net>:
>
> > [...]
>
> > >> Anyhow, I have me site and all that hosted professionally and even when
> > >> a ferocious storm knocked power where the server farm is there was no
> > >> outage. They have their own backup power, mirror sites and so on. All
> > >> for around $80 a year.
>
> > > Why,. the server is mine, it sits here in my house, why bother with some ISP
> > > with a help desk that has no clue most of the time?
> > > Last time I had one they charged 1 guilder per minute, having no clue makes a lot of money that way :-)
>
> > Guilder? That must have been a looong time ago then.
>
> > My web hosting provider never charged me for support calls or emails.
> > Plus the computer and Internet gets shut off at night. The power savings
> > alone probably make up the $80/year. Although it's more like $45 because
> > if I had no host I'd have to pay InterNic $35 for the domain name I
> > guess, unless that price has come down by now.
>
>    http://www.ipowerweb.com/spring_promoa.html
>
> The IPOWER Pro Plan Includes:
>
>     * FREE Domain Name
>     * UNLIMITED Disk Space
>     * UNLIMITED Bandwidth
>     * Host Unlimited Domains
>     * 2500 E-Mail Accounts
>     * Blogs, Forums, Galleries
>     * Template-Based Site Building Tool
>     * E-Commerce Software
>     * FrontPage & Dreamweaver Compatible
>     * CGI, Ruby, Perl, PHP, MYSQL
>     * FTP, FileManager Upload Tool
>     * Customer Feedback Tools
>     * $75 in Google and Yahoo Search Credits
>     * 24x7 Customer Support
>
> for $3.95 a month.
> --
> Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to
> have a DD214, and a honorable discharge.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

That does appear to be a good offer.
Have you used them before? Happy with their service?
What's their shopping cart look like? Worth it?

I'm sort of in bed with 1and1, and mostly happy with them.
Their rates are comparable, (not enough to matter), but IMO, their PHP
and dot-net support is pretty "iffy".
There's some webfix stuff you need to do in code (particularly for
outbound HTML mail!), which you pretty much have to be a genius to
figure out.
And I don't think they include a shopping cart, but they might. (?)

I normally use ProStores for any turn-key shopping sites I'm asked to
set up.
Expensive, but it does everything, including eBay, invoicing and
shipping integration.
Why reinvent the wheel?

Hey -- supposed to dip into the 60's tonight!!!
Enjoy it while it lasts. August will be here before we know it!

-mpm
From: Michael A. Terrell on

mpm wrote:
>
> On Apr 28, 7:59 pm, "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terr...(a)earthlink.net>
> wrote:
> > Joerg wrote:
> >
> > > Jan Panteltje wrote:
> > > > On a sunny day (Wed, 28 Apr 2010 14:03:25 -0700) it happened Joerg
> > > > <inva...(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in <83rm55Fh2...(a)mid.individual.net>:
> >
> > > [...]
> >
> > > >> Anyhow, I have me site and all that hosted professionally and even when
> > > >> a ferocious storm knocked power where the server farm is there was no
> > > >> outage. They have their own backup power, mirror sites and so on. All
> > > >> for around $80 a year.
> >
> > > > Why,. the server is mine, it sits here in my house, why bother with some ISP
> > > > with a help desk that has no clue most of the time?
> > > > Last time I had one they charged 1 guilder per minute, having no clue makes a lot of money that way :-)
> >
> > > Guilder? That must have been a looong time ago then.
> >
> > > My web hosting provider never charged me for support calls or emails.
> > > Plus the computer and Internet gets shut off at night. The power savings
> > > alone probably make up the $80/year. Although it's more like $45 because
> > > if I had no host I'd have to pay InterNic $35 for the domain name I
> > > guess, unless that price has come down by now.
> >
> > http://www.ipowerweb.com/spring_promoa.html
> >
> > The IPOWER Pro Plan Includes:
> >
> > * FREE Domain Name
> > * UNLIMITED Disk Space
> > * UNLIMITED Bandwidth
> > * Host Unlimited Domains
> > * 2500 E-Mail Accounts
> > * Blogs, Forums, Galleries
> > * Template-Based Site Building Tool
> > * E-Commerce Software
> > * FrontPage & Dreamweaver Compatible
> > * CGI, Ruby, Perl, PHP, MYSQL
> > * FTP, FileManager Upload Tool
> > * Customer Feedback Tools
> > * $75 in Google and Yahoo Search Credits
> > * 24x7 Customer Support
> >
> > for $3.95 a month.
> > --
> > Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to
> > have a DD214, and a honorable discharge.- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> That does appear to be a good offer.
> Have you used them before? Happy with their service?


I know several web designers with dozens of customers hosted by them,
and they are very happy.

> What's their shopping cart look like? Worth it?


I've never used a shopping cart on a website.

> I'm sort of in bed with 1and1, and mostly happy with them.
> Their rates are comparable, (not enough to matter), but IMO, their PHP
> and dot-net support is pretty "iffy".
> There's some webfix stuff you need to do in code (particularly for
> outbound HTML mail!), which you pretty much have to be a genius to
> figure out.
> And I don't think they include a shopping cart, but they might. (?)
>
> I normally use ProStores for any turn-key shopping sites I'm asked to
> set up.
> Expensive, but it does everything, including eBay, invoicing and
> shipping integration.
> Why reinvent the wheel?

Agreed. I don't know what program they are using.


> Hey -- supposed to dip into the 60's tonight!!!
> Enjoy it while it lasts. August will be here before we know it!


I had to crank the windows shut at 4:00 AM the other day, when it
dropped into the low '60s in my bedroom.



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From: Michael A. Terrell on

Jan Panteltje wrote:
>
> Also any datasheet you want in seconds...

Bullshit. A lot, but not all. Find one for:

NEC - MC-5800 - Hybrid RF/IF amplifier

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have a DD214, and a honorable discharge.