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From: kung_fu_nelly on 4 Jul 2008 22:54 I own a laptop now for just under three years, just recently I got a spate of BSOD errors, referring to atapi.sys. Following this error, I got an HDD error saying the device was not found. I went on to do a System Restore, and for awhile the BSOD errors stopped! But now they're back... I was hoping that by doing a System Restore, this would have replaced the atapi.sys driver, thus solving the problems if the driver was corrupt...now I'm not sure if the hard drive or RAM could be going, seeing as the BSOD errors have started again. Here's the gist of the info from the blue screen: kernel_data_inpage_error STOP: 0x0000007A (0xC07C1640, 0XC000000E, 0XF82C8130, 0X198B0860) atapi.sys Address F82C8130 base at F82B7000, Datastamp 41107b4d Anyone know what this error possibly forbodes? -- kung_fu_nelly ------------------------------------------------------------------------ kung_fu_nelly's Profile: http://forums.techarena.in/member.php?u=52544 View this thread: http://forums.techarena.in/showthread.php?t=996566 http://forums.techarena.in
From: Paul on 5 Jul 2008 00:36 kung_fu_nelly wrote: > I own a laptop now for just under three years, just recently I got a > spate of BSOD errors, referring to atapi.sys. > > Following this error, I got an HDD error saying the device was not > found. I went on to do a System Restore, and for awhile the BSOD errors > stopped! > > But now they're back... I was hoping that by doing a System Restore, > this would have replaced the atapi.sys driver, thus solving the problems > if the driver was corrupt...now I'm not sure if the hard drive or RAM > could be going, seeing as the BSOD errors have started again. > > Here's the gist of the info from the blue screen: > > kernel_data_inpage_error > > STOP: 0x0000007A (0xC07C1640, 0XC000000E, 0XF82C8130, 0X198B0860) > > atapi.sys > > Address F82C8130 base at F82B7000, Datastamp 41107b4d > > Anyone know what this error possibly forbodes? > Stop codes are here. http://aumha.org/a/stop.htm 000000007A = KERNEL_DATA_INPAGE_ERROR The second parameter is the reason. The reason is not listed in the MSDN article linked for stop 7A. But I tried a search on it, and C000000E = STATUS_NO_SUCH_DEVICE is the translation. Which means the drive "disappeared" at some point, and did not answer. An excessive response time, might indicate trouble reading a particular sector, and while normally the software would properly track the state of the drive ("I'm busy"), is sounds like the driver was attempting to access the drive, while the drive was still trying like 50 times, to read the sector. When is the last time you backed up your data ? Can you afford to lose that drive entirely ? Have you burned your set of "recovery CDs" as instructed in the manual ? Without recovery CDs, it may be difficult to reinstall the OS provided with your laptop. The laptop may have a copy of Windows in the recovery partition, but if the drive fails, that partition is gone. Which is why the manual will normally recommend burning a set of recovery CDs for future usage. You only get one chance to burn them (as they don't want you making a lot of copies). And I'd also want to immediately rip the CD and store a copy of the CD as an ISO9660 file, for a day in the future when you need to make yet more copies. And that takes at least one, if not two, backup hard drives, so you won't lose it. Optical media doesn't last forever, and you should prepare accordingly. Some laptop makers, stop offering recovery CDs for sale, after the warranty period of the product has expired, so then you'd be screwed if you hadn't made your own copies when you had a chance. If you know the brand of the hard drive (you might get that info from Device Manager, or from some utility), you can go to the hard drive manufacturer's web site and download a diagnostic. The diagnostic will either say the drive is OK, or give some meaningless error code. The diagnostic is there, to distinguish when a warranty claim can be made. If the drive doesn't get a passing grade, then you know it is only a matter of time before the drive is toast. So now is the time to prepare for the worst. Not later, when the drive is totally gone. You'd be surprised how many people never make the recovery CDs for themselves. HTH, Paul
From: Gerry on 5 Jul 2008 06:44 Background information on Stop Error message http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms793989.aspx 0x0000007A: KERNEL_DATA_INPAGE_ERROR A page of kernel data was not found in the pagefile and could not be read into memory. This might be due to incompatible disk or controller drivers, firmware, or hardware. Source: http://aumha.org:80/a/stop.htm Before attempting to resolve the problem you should back up your important data files. Are there any yellow question marks in Device Manager? Right click on the My Computer icon on your Desktop and select Properties, Hardware,Device Manager. If yes what is the Device Error code? Go to Start, Control Panel, Folder Options, View, Advanced Settings and verify that the box before "Show hidden files and folders" is checked and "Hide protected operating system files " is unchecked. You may need to scroll down to see the second item. You should also make certain that the box before "Hide extensions for known file types" is not checked. Next in Windows Explorer make sure View, Details is selected and then select View, Choose Details and check before Name, Type, Total Size, and Free Space. Description: atapi.sys is located in the folder C:\Windows\System32\drivers. Known file sizes on Windows XP are 95360 bytes (94% of all occurrence), 86656 bytes. The driver can be started or stopped from Services in the Control Panel or by other programs. It is a Windows system file. The program is not visible. The service has no detailed description. File atapi.sys is a trustworthy file from Microsoft. Therefore the technical security rating is 20% dangerous, however also read the users reviews. Important: Some malware camouflage themselves as atapi.sys, particularly if they are located in c:\windows or c:\windows\system32 folder. Thus check the atapi.sys process on your pc whether it is pest. Source: http://www.file.net/process/atapi.sys.html The process IDE/ATAPI Port Driver belongs to the software Microsoft Windows Operating System or Standard Ide/ESDI Hard Disk Controller by Microsoft Corporation. Now open Windows Explorer and locate atapi.sys at the location C:\Windows\System32\drivers. Place the cursor on atapi.sys, right click and select Properties. Note and post details of the file version, size (not size on disk), and modified date. Have you checked your hard drive? Try HD Tune only gives information and does not fix any problems. Download and run it and see what it turns up. You want HD Tune (freeware) version 2.55 not HD Tune Pro (not Freeware) version 3.00. http://www.hdtune.com/ Select the Info tabs and place the cursor on the drive under Drive letter and then double click the two page icon ( copy to Clipboard ) and copy into a further message. Select the Health tab and then double click the two page icon ( copy to Clipboard ) and copy into a further message. Make sure you do a full surface scan with HD Tune. -- Hope this helps. Gerry ~~~~ FCA Stourport, England Enquire, plan and execute ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ kung_fu_nelly wrote: > I own a laptop now for just under three years, just recently I got a > spate of BSOD errors, referring to atapi.sys. > > Following this error, I got an HDD error saying the device was not > found. I went on to do a System Restore, and for awhile the BSOD > errors stopped! > > But now they're back... I was hoping that by doing a System Restore, > this would have replaced the atapi.sys driver, thus solving the > problems if the driver was corrupt...now I'm not sure if the hard > drive or RAM could be going, seeing as the BSOD errors have started > again. > > Here's the gist of the info from the blue screen: > > kernel_data_inpage_error > > STOP: 0x0000007A (0xC07C1640, 0XC000000E, 0XF82C8130, 0X198B0860) > > atapi.sys > > Address F82C8130 base at F82B7000, Datastamp 41107b4d > > Anyone know what this error possibly forbodes?
From: kung_fu_nelly on 6 Jul 2008 19:08 First of all guys, thanks for all the replies, and I tried almost everything you advised: I ran a virus scan with AVG and turned up nothing, and the atapi.sys file turned up as 94KB in all instances so I don't think it's corrupt I also tried the diagnostic from the drive manufacturer which in this case is Hitachi, but everything turned up fine when I ran an advanced test Also no yellow marks in Device Manager Could it still be the Hard Drive...or could it possibly be the RAM? I ran a generic RAM tester from download.com but everything turned up fine there as well...I am in the process of trying the Hard Drive Tuner... Paul, I am afraid to report I am one of those slackers who didn't create the disks, :( unfortunately because I didn't read the manual...but I am in the process of backing up my hard drive just in case -- kung_fu_nelly ------------------------------------------------------------------------ kung_fu_nelly's Profile: http://forums.techarena.in/member.php?u=52544 View this thread: http://forums.techarena.in/showthread.php?t=996566 http://forums.techarena.in
From: Paul on 6 Jul 2008 21:30
kung_fu_nelly wrote: > > Paul, I am afraid to report I am one of those slackers who didn't > create the disks, :( unfortunately because I didn't read the > manual...but I am in the process of backing up my hard drive just in > case > Make the discs :-) Depending on the kind of backup software you're using, it only backs up the visible stuff. It may not do anything with any invisible partitions. If you make the CDs, you'll have as much of the value from the manufacturer's software, as you can get. In some cases, if the machine is out of warranty, the manufacturer will refuse to sell you the CDs. That is why you make your own, and preferably before there is real trouble. You are right, that when a set of symptoms present themselves, there can be other causes than the obvious ones. I had such an experience just yesterday. I woke this system from sleep, and was greeted by a blue screen. I figured, "Oh, great, my boot disk is dead", and switched to my alternate boot disk (I have two). I got a different blue screen. Now I'm going "Hmmm". So I pulled some RAM out of the computer, and the blue screen was gone. Even though the error messages looked like disk problems. And the really funny part, is I have four identical 512MB sticks of RAM. I put two sticks in my current machine, and they pass Memtest86+. I put the other two sticks in my backup machine. And they test clean as well. But if all four sticks are installed together, they're a no-go. I expect I haven't seen the end of my little gremlin, and only time will tell, if some new symptoms will point a finger at the guilty party. (I'm thinking I might have a flawed Northbridge or Northbridge power source.) Paul |