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From: Joe J. on 16 Dec 2009 18:42 I purchased a 300G USB drive. After hibernating, if I don't disconnect the USB, the computer won't boot. Once I reboot, it sits there with a flashing cursor in the top left corner. My boot options are set to this, in this order: Onboard or USB CD-Rom Onboard or USB Floppy Onboard SATA. USB Device not present. I tried toggling between on and off for this and leaving it off but it still hangs on the boot-up. Any thoughts because it's a pain to have to keep plugging and unplugging the USB. The tower sits on the floor and the USB connector is at the bottom of the tower.
From: JD on 16 Dec 2009 18:58 Joe J. wrote: > I purchased a 300G USB drive. After hibernating, if I don't disconnect the > USB, the computer won't boot. Once I reboot, it sits there with a flashing > cursor in the top left corner. My boot options are set to this, in this > order: > Onboard or USB CD-Rom > Onboard or USB Floppy > Onboard SATA. > USB Device not present. I tried toggling between on and off for this and > leaving it off but it still hangs on the boot-up. > > Any thoughts because it's a pain to have to keep plugging and unplugging the > USB. The tower sits on the floor and the USB connector is at the bottom of > the tower. > > Hi Joe Does your PC have the same issue when you do a standard shutdown and restart?, I've sen some USB devices that cause the POST to hang, for instance I had the same issue with a Razer Copperhead USB mouse, to fix it I had to flash my Board with the latest Firmware (BIOS) Check whether or not your PC does the same thing on a normal shutdown if it does, try Disabling Boot from other devices, also check your Motherboard manufacturer's website for an update (WARNING flashing your mainboard can be hazardous for its health, if you do it wrong!!) Its also helpful to know the make of your USB device, type of mainboard and the operating system. JD
From: Jeff Strickland on 16 Dec 2009 18:59 You need to change the boot priority to boot from the HDD first, or the CD first and the HDD second. If these sources are not bootable, then look to the USB. You do not need the floppy drive in the mix at all because as a practical matter, there is no such thing as a bootable floppy anymore. In theory, there could be a few people out there running a very old OS that can boot from a floppy, but if you have a machine that supports a SATA drive, then booting from a floop isn't realisticaly going to happen. First Boot -- CD Second Boot -- HDD Third Boot -- USB If the USB is a boot device ahead of the HDD, but hasn't got a boot sector, then the machine will hang looking for something it will never be able to find. I'm not certain, but if the CD is not bootable and is in front of the HDD, you might have trouble waking the machine from Hibernation too -- if the CD is occupied but the disc is not bootable. You can eject the CD tray if the machine is trying to boot from it, and then it will go to the HDD for boot information. My machine is set to boot in the following order, CD, HDD, USB. You can drop the USB device from the boot order if you haven't got any bootable USB devices -- which covers the majority of the populatiion. The vast majority of users will only boot to the HDD, unless the HDD goes into failure mode. If this happens, we will boot to a CD so that we can make repairs to the OS. It is a specialty user that will boot to a USB drive. "Joe J." <joejak(a)prodigy.net> wrote in message news:hgbr8s$c5j$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >I purchased a 300G USB drive. After hibernating, if I don't disconnect the >USB, the computer won't boot. Once I reboot, it sits there with a flashing >cursor in the top left corner. My boot options are set to this, in this >order: > Onboard or USB CD-Rom > Onboard or USB Floppy > Onboard SATA. > USB Device not present. I tried toggling between on and off for this and > leaving it off but it still hangs on the boot-up. > > Any thoughts because it's a pain to have to keep plugging and unplugging > the USB. The tower sits on the floor and the USB connector is at the > bottom of the tower. >
From: Joe J. on 16 Dec 2009 19:07 My USB is not enabled on boot. I don't see how having the floppy in the sequence would make a difference since there is no disk in it. Joe "Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:hgbs88$jk7$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > You need to change the boot priority to boot from the HDD first, or the CD > first and the HDD second. If these sources are not bootable, then look to > the USB. You do not need the floppy drive in the mix at all because as a > practical matter, there is no such thing as a bootable floppy anymore. In > theory, there could be a few people out there running a very old OS that > can boot from a floppy, but if you have a machine that supports a SATA > drive, then booting from a floop isn't realisticaly going to happen. > > First Boot -- CD > Second Boot -- HDD > Third Boot -- USB > > If the USB is a boot device ahead of the HDD, but hasn't got a boot > sector, then the machine will hang looking for something it will never be > able to find. I'm not certain, but if the CD is not bootable and is in > front of the HDD, you might have trouble waking the machine from > Hibernation too -- if the CD is occupied but the disc is not bootable. You > can eject the CD tray if the machine is trying to boot from it, and then > it will go to the HDD for boot information. > > My machine is set to boot in the following order, CD, HDD, USB. You can > drop the USB device from the boot order if you haven't got any bootable > USB devices -- which covers the majority of the populatiion. The vast > majority of users will only boot to the HDD, unless the HDD goes into > failure mode. If this happens, we will boot to a CD so that we can make > repairs to the OS. It is a specialty user that will boot to a USB drive. > > > > "Joe J." <joejak(a)prodigy.net> wrote in message > news:hgbr8s$c5j$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >>I purchased a 300G USB drive. After hibernating, if I don't disconnect >>the USB, the computer won't boot. Once I reboot, it sits there with a >>flashing cursor in the top left corner. My boot options are set to this, >>in this order: >> Onboard or USB CD-Rom >> Onboard or USB Floppy >> Onboard SATA. >> USB Device not present. I tried toggling between on and off for this and >> leaving it off but it still hangs on the boot-up. >> >> Any thoughts because it's a pain to have to keep plugging and unplugging >> the USB. The tower sits on the floor and the USB connector is at the >> bottom of the tower. >> > >
From: Joe J. on 16 Dec 2009 19:11
"JD" <No.Reply(a)Sorry.com> wrote in message news:4b2973a1$0$2492$db0fefd9(a)news.zen.co.uk... > Joe J. wrote: >> I purchased a 300G USB drive. After hibernating, if I don't disconnect >> the USB, the computer won't boot. Once I reboot, it sits there with a >> flashing cursor in the top left corner. My boot options are set to this, >> in this order: >> Onboard or USB CD-Rom >> Onboard or USB Floppy >> Onboard SATA. >> USB Device not present. I tried toggling between on and off for this and >> leaving it off but it still hangs on the boot-up. >> >> Any thoughts because it's a pain to have to keep plugging and unplugging >> the USB. The tower sits on the floor and the USB connector is at the >> bottom of the tower. > > Hi Joe > > Does your PC have the same issue when you do a standard shutdown and > restart?, I've sen some USB devices that cause the POST to hang, for > instance I had the same issue with a Razer Copperhead USB mouse, to fix it > I had to flash my Board with the latest Firmware (BIOS) > > Check whether or not your PC does the same thing on a normal shutdown if > it does, try Disabling Boot from other devices, also check your > Motherboard manufacturer's website for an update (WARNING flashing your > mainboard can be hazardous for its health, if you do it wrong!!) > > Its also helpful to know the make of your USB device, type of mainboard > and the operating system. > > JD Tried a full shutdown and get the same thing, it hangs. USB is a Simpletech 320G Where would I find disable boot from other devices? It's not an option in the boot sequence language. It's a Dell 4700, running XP. Bios is AO5 I have no idea where to find type of mainboard. Joe |