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From: [-=Dan=-] on 21 Mar 2005 07:20
"Opinicus" <gezgin(a)spamcop.net> wrote in message
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> "george" <anonymous(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
>
>> If you have a floppy drive, get a diskette and format it in XP Explorer
>> and don't forget to check "Create an MS-DOS startup diskette".
>> Now when running the HP format utility point it to this floppy for MS-DOS
>> files.
>> Works a treat.
>> Just tried it.
>
> Will this method allow you to access a hard disk that's formatted NTFS
> after you've booted from the USB device?
>

Not really no, you'd need to run some other tool that lets you look at NTFS
volumes from a FAT16/32 OS.


From: george on 21 Mar 2005 07:33

"[-=Dan=-]" <getbent(a)ease.com> wrote in message
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> "Opinicus" <gezgin(a)spamcop.net> wrote in message
> news:113tduaqv5b5re2(a)news.supernews.com...
>> "george" <anonymous(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
>>
>>> If you have a floppy drive, get a diskette and format it in XP Explorer
>>> and don't forget to check "Create an MS-DOS startup diskette".
>>> Now when running the HP format utility point it to this floppy for
>>> MS-DOS files.
>>> Works a treat.
>>> Just tried it.
>>
>> Will this method allow you to access a hard disk that's formatted NTFS
>> after you've booted from the USB device?
>>
>
> Not really no, you'd need to run some other tool that lets you look at
> NTFS volumes from a FAT16/32 OS.
>
Like (for read-only) the free NTFS for Windows 98
(http://www.sysinternals.com/ntw2k/freeware/ntfswin98.shtml)

george


From: Bob Harris on 21 Mar 2005 16:49
If you want the functional equivalent of a boot disk, with the ability to
read/write on NTFS partitions, try making a Bart's bootable CD. Link to
Bart's PE builder:

http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/


Bart's is much better than the XP recovery console.

"mha" <na(a)na.na> wrote in message
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> Hi
>
> How can I make my USB storage bootable, so I can boot up Windows XP in DOS
> mode. Such as with a bootable floppy in the old days.
>
> regards
> Morten
>


From: Harry Ohrn on 21 Mar 2005 16:24
If you have a floppy drive then pop a Windows 98 Start-up disc into it and
point to a: when asked for the location of the DOS system files. You can
acquire an image of a Windows 98 Start-up floppy from here www.bootdisk.com
if you don't have one.

If you have no floppy drive then try this
http://chitchat.at.infoseek.co.jp/vmware/vfd.html#top to create a virtual
floppy drive that you can load an image of a Dos floppy into. You can get a
floppy image from http://www.webtree.ca/newlife/downloads/Windows98.exe Run
the file and uncheck the option to Write to floppy (if you have no floppy
drive) select the option to Write Image and browse to a location to create
the image. The file will be a .IMZ file (or an image) of an enhanced Windows
98 Start-up file You can load the .IMZ into the virtual floppy and point to
it when prompted for "DOS system files" during the running the HP USB Disk
Storage Format Tool.

--

Harry Ohrn MS-MVP [Shell/User]
www.webtree.ca/windowsxp


"mha" <na(a)na.na> wrote in message
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> I am running the HP USB Disk Storage Format Tool from my Windows XP, and I
> get the following message when I want to create a DOS startup disk :
> "Missing location of DOS system files. DOS system files need to be
provided
> to make the specified device DOS-bootable"
>
> "Geoffw" <gwinnetSPAM(a)SPAMhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:elpZ9KgLFHA.2748(a)TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > win98 boot disk ?
> >
> > "mha" <na(a)na.na> wrote in message
> > news:OFc1fAgLFHA.2648(a)TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> >> Nice, but it is asking for the DOS system files location?
> >>
> >>
> >> "dandi360" <dandi360(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> > message
> >> news:3E17370B-1944-48F1-978D-7AB02583ADAD(a)microsoft.com...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "mha" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Hi
> >> >>
> >> >> How can I make my USB storage bootable, so I can boot
> > up Windows XP in
> >> >> DOS
> >> >> mode. Such as with a bootable floppy in the old days.
> >> >>
> >> >> regards
> >> >> Morten
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> I found this excerpt on another site:
> >> >
> >> > "The USB must have a boot sector, so copying files to it
> > is not enough and
> >> > regular format/image tools simply do it incorrectly and
> > give it jacked up
> >> > boot sectors. The HP USB Disk Storage Format Tool is the
> > only thing I've
> >> > come
> >> > across that works on every USB every time (not just HP
> > stuff, everything,
> >> > even my canon camera).
> >> >
> > http://h18007.www1.hp.com/support/files/hpcpqdt/us/download/20306.html"
> >> >
> >> > I haven't tested it yet but it sounds convincing!
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>



From: BAR on 22 Mar 2005 05:27
Windows XP doesn't have a DOS mode.

If you wnat to bring it up in safe mode, press F8 after POST and Before Xp
starts loading. You get startup options.

If you want to get to a command prompt and have a faulty Xp installation
boot off the XP CD. You get recovery mode, installation or other options.

If it is really DOS that you want, use an old 98 startup floppy!

If you don't have a floppy, then USB devices will prove not to be Bootable
as most PC BIOS cannot load specifc driver files for the multitude of USB
peripherals - floppy, CD, HDD, Memory Stick, Camera, Copier /
Printer......the list goes on. How would one manage to get all this info
onto a simple EEPROM. One would not need an operating system, it could all
be resident in BIOS - then it wouldn't be call Basic Input/Output System
would it?

"mha" wrote:

> Hi
>
> How can I make my USB storage bootable, so I can boot up Windows XP in DOS
> mode. Such as with a bootable floppy in the old days.
>
> regards
> Morten
>
>
>
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