Burning music CDs
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From: unruh on 26 Jan 2010 01:26 On 2010-01-26, Tony Houghton <h(a)realh.co.uk> wrote: > In <slrnhlrl29.e60.unruh(a)wormhole.physics.ubc.ca>, > unruh <unruh(a)wormhole.physics.ubc.ca> wrote: > >> On 2010-01-25, Ian <ian.groups(a)btinternet.com> wrote: >>> On 25 Jan, 00:09, unruh <un...(a)wormhole.physics.ubc.ca> wrote: >>>> Also get yourself >>>> the real cdrecord, not the ancient offshoot, dying for want to support, >>>> called wodim, or cdrkit. (cdrecord.berlios.de) > > There isn't a whole lot of development going on with cdrkit, but it > works well enough and it certainly isn't dying. I am sorry, but "not a lot of developement" when new dvds, blueray,etc, are coming out, and you say "it isn't dying"? Strange definition. > >>> It seems that J?rg Schilling's attitude deters many from adopting his >>> excellent software. > > It actually prevents people from adopting it if they want to distribute > it in strict compliance with common licences (interpreted the way nearly > everyone else interprets them). ??? If you spend time only talking to yourself, then I guess "everyone else" is accurate. > >> While his attitude is an annoyance, there has also been a lot of >> childish behaviour from the Debian people. > > Only if you completely believe Schilling's account. The cdrkit > developers long ago addressed his complaints about their so-called GPL > violations (at least one of which was based on selectively quoting the > GPL), but he hasn't bothered to update his website. Every other > significant distro I can think of has switched to cdrkit, not just > Debian and Ubuntu. No. Only if I read what the Debian people say. No need to believe Schilling's account. And some distros are switching back. That charge to switch away was led, a) by Schilling's keeping dvd stuff proprietary and distros feeling that they had to add that to their distros (It has not been proprietary since 2006) , and b) by a lot of license nonsense. I have read much of the literature and the licenses, and must say I am not impressed by the arguments, to say the least. >
From: Andy Leighton on 26 Jan 2010 04:24 On 26 Jan 2010 00:27:16 GMT, John Stumbles <john.stumbles(a)ntlworld.com> wrote: > On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 13:28:19 -0600, Andy Leighton wrote: > >> k3b - however it is KDE. If you are a Gnome person maybe brasero. > > Can't you run kde apps under gnome? Of course, if you install the KDE libraries. Some people prefer not to mix Gnome/KDE apps (where there is a choice) for reasons which may or may not be logical. There used to be inter-op issues with stuff like drag and drop. Personally my system is a right mix - but then I spend most of my time not in a graphical environment. -- Andy Leighton => andyl(a)azaal.plus.com "The Lord is my shepherd, but we still lost the sheep dog trials" - Robert Rankin, _They Came And Ate Us_
From: Martin Gregorie on 26 Jan 2010 07:20 On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 00:32:32 +0000, Paul Martin wrote: > In article <hjl36s$7na$1(a)localhost.localdomain>, > Martin Gregorie wrote: >> On Mon, 25 Jan 2010 13:26:59 +0000, Martin Gregorie wrote: > >>> - gcdmaster cant see a CD-RW disk at all. I'll try this again with a >>> CD-R in case this program can't see the drive. However, I think it >>> is the disk medium since it failed on both my laptop and desktop. >>> >> Update: it can't see a CD-R in the same drive either. > > Don't use it to burn the disc. Save the .toc file, and feed it to cdrdao > (command line). I find that that's far more reliable. Brasero does the job for me, though I've still to revisit k3b. I'm about to remove XCDRoast and gcdmaster. -- martin@ | Martin Gregorie gregorie. | Essex, UK org |
From: chris on 26 Jan 2010 07:57 On 25/01/2010 15:58, Phil wrote: > anahata<anahata(a)treewind.co.uk> writes: >> >> For many applications, there are much better ways of physically carrying >> data from one place to another, like SD cards or USB flash drives. >> > I haven't burned a linux distro to cd for ages, nowadays I just download the > fedora live iso and then use that to re-create my live usb stick and re-install > to my laptop and desktop using the usb stick. That's a good point. I may have to invest in a new usb stick. I have an old one which is only 256Mb...
From: Tony Houghton on 26 Jan 2010 09:45
In <slrnhlt2pg.1de.unruh(a)wormhole.physics.ubc.ca>, unruh <unruh(a)wormhole.physics.ubc.ca> wrote: > On 2010-01-26, Tony Houghton <h(a)realh.co.uk> wrote: >> In <slrnhlrl29.e60.unruh(a)wormhole.physics.ubc.ca>, >> unruh <unruh(a)wormhole.physics.ubc.ca> wrote: >> >>> On 2010-01-25, Ian <ian.groups(a)btinternet.com> wrote: >>>> On 25 Jan, 00:09, unruh <un...(a)wormhole.physics.ubc.ca> wrote: >>>>> Also get yourself >>>>> the real cdrecord, not the ancient offshoot, dying for want to support, >>>>> called wodim, or cdrkit. (cdrecord.berlios.de) >> >> There isn't a whole lot of development going on with cdrkit, but it >> works well enough and it certainly isn't dying. > > I am sorry, but "not a lot of developement" when new dvds, blueray,etc, are > coming out, and you say "it isn't dying"? Strange definition. Even stranger that you should say it's dying, just because it's stuck to its core functionality. cdrkit does CDs, dvd+rw-tools does DVDs and Blu-ray. >>>> It seems that J?rg Schilling's attitude deters many from adopting his >>>> excellent software. >> >> It actually prevents people from adopting it if they want to distribute >> it in strict compliance with common licences (interpreted the way nearly >> everyone else interprets them). > > ??? If you spend time only talking to yourself, then I guess "everyone > else" is accurate. OK then, people who are responsible for Linux distros and need to make it their business to be experts in software licences. I thought the majority would prefer to accept their opinions than that of someone who one minute says these licences don't really matter, then turns around with pathetic attempts to use them against the people who said they do. >>> While his attitude is an annoyance, there has also been a lot of >>> childish behaviour from the Debian people. >> >> Only if you completely believe Schilling's account. The cdrkit >> developers long ago addressed his complaints about their so-called GPL >> violations (at least one of which was based on selectively quoting the >> GPL), but he hasn't bothered to update his website. Every other >> significant distro I can think of has switched to cdrkit, not just >> Debian and Ubuntu. > > No. Only if I read what the Debian people say. No need to believe > Schilling's account. > And some distros are switching back. Which distributions would these be? Or can you not say, because they asked you not to divulge it when they let you into their confidence? (Bazinga). -- TH * http://www.realh.co.uk |