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From: Peter Keller on 15 Jul 2010 17:18 In comp.lang.lisp Pascal J. Bourguignon <pjb(a)informatimago.com> wrote: > And if you really want to have a C source, you can also write a tiny > Lisp to C translator. I did just such a thing the other day out of curiosity: http://pages.cs.wisc.edu/~psilord/blog/31.html It probably has some wrong edge conditions concerning the C code emission because I didn't really clarify the distinction between evaluating a function call into an C expression or a C statement, but for a few hours of hacking it provided a lot of enjoyment. I'm doing a bunch of experimentation with writing a compiler in Common Lisp, so I have several of these types of hacks. Another one is converting a very tiny subset of common lisp directly into three address code. Stuff like that. Lisp is pretty awesome for writing a compiler... -pete
From: Seebs on 15 Jul 2010 22:43 On 2010-07-15, bolega <gnuist006(a)gmail.com> wrote: > This makes some sense. He replied on the newsgroup in a lengthy post > that there are sufficient resources out there giving hint that no one > need help me out. Then I was called "lazy" in one email and tersely > given JUST the last name of an author who has many books each many > 100s pages, when I asked for a relevant book, as if i am a scholar in > the field, although he did spend lots of words on irrelevant and > unbeneficial things which diminished my enthusiasm. If you found those "irrelevant and unbeneficial", then while I agree that he may have been wasting his time, he would have been wasting it even worse trying to walk you through the technical material when you're clearly not currently at a stage where you are ready to learn anyway. > Now, I find out > from you that he has/had a business concern or interest in a company > that is writing/wrote lisp interpreter in C. Correct me if I am making > an error. I dont want to think deprecatingly of any good soul but this > is what i experienced. If you are trying to imply that he was acting in some unethical way, you have further cemented the notion that trying to talk to you is a waste of anyone's time. *plonk* -s -- Copyright 2010, all wrongs reversed. Peter Seebach / usenet-nospam(a)seebs.net http://www.seebs.net/log/ <-- lawsuits, religion, and funny pictures http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_Game_(Scientology) <-- get educated!
From: francogrex on 23 Jul 2010 09:10
In article <16a7e301-2e85-47eb-971e-79acc4e076a6(a)b35g2000yqi. googlegroups.com>, gnuist006(a)gmail.com says... >This makes some sense. He replied on the newsgroup in a lengthy post >that there are sufficient resources out there giving hint that no one >need help me out. Then I was called "lazy" in one email and tersely >given JUST the last name of an author who has many books each many >100s pages, when I asked for a relevant book, as if i am a scholar in >the field, although he did spend lots of words on irrelevant and >unbeneficial things which diminished my enthusiasm. Now, I find out >from you that he has/had a business concern or interest in a company >that is writing/wrote lisp interpreter in C. Correct me if I am making >an error. I dont want to think deprecatingly of any good soul but this >is what i experienced. No, you're not making a bad judgement. He's not the only one who treats newcomers with disrespect and scorn. Unfortunately many so-called experts in the field look down on newbies and mistreat them (in any programming language forum), forgetting in the process that they were also at a certain time newbies until someone gentle and nice enough teachers took the trouble to educate them. On the other hand there are less neurotic experts out there who are glad to help out someone learning. It's like in some universities, you have the bad "professors" who are freaks (probably they have a lot of problems at home, their wives screwing all the males on the block, daughters drug addicts etc) and want to take their hatred out on you, and you have the good and mentally stable professors who actually deserve their title. |