CAPACITORS VIOLATING THE SECOND LAW OF THERMODYNAMICS
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From: Pentcho Valev on 5 Jun 2010 01:41 A few years ago, at the 2002 First International Conference on Quantum Limits to the Second Law, I tried to draw the attention to the fact that charged capacitors immersed in water develop a strange pressure between the plates, a pressure that, on close inspection, seems to violate the second law of thermodynamics: http://link.aip.org/link/?APCPCS/643/430/1 http://www.wbabin.net/valev/valev2.pdf The scientific community remained silent and hostile but now I see the idea that capacitors can violate the second law has been developed ever since: http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/0912/0912.4818v3.pdf "Recently (Physics Letters A 374 (2010) 1801) the concept of vacuum capacitor spontaneously charged harnessing the heat absorbed from a single thermal reservoir at room temperature has been introduced..." http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/0904/0904.3188v4.pdf "In this paper we describe a vacuum spherical capacitor that generates a macroscopic voltage between its spheres harnessing the heat from a single thermal reservoir at room temperature. (...) The author wishes also gratefully acknowledge stimulating and encouraging discussions with Prof. Daniel P. Sheehan (University of San Diego) during the preparation of an early draft of the manuscript." Bravo, Daniel P. Sheehan! You were hostile in 2002 but now I see you have taken some notice of what I told you. Your triumph will come soon: http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2009/dec/13/quantum-challenge-usd-professor/ "Clean-cut and middle-aged, a tenured professor at a conservative Catholic university, Sheehan is hardly a rebel. Yet for years, he and a few other physicists have been pressing peers to re-examine the Second Law of Thermodynamics, one of the most celebrated and cherished tenets of physics. (...) But Sheehan suggests big things are possible if even the tiniest of violations can be proven, and ultimately exploited in an economically feasible way. For example, it might become possible to convert ambient heat into an infinite energy source, he said." Pentcho Valev pvalev(a)yahoo.com
From: Pentcho Valev on 5 Jun 2010 10:07 http://www.physorg.com/news110191847.html "When exposed to a high-voltage electric field, water in two beakers climbs out of the beakers and crosses empty space to meet, forming the water bridge. The liquid bridge, hovering in space, appears to the human eye to defy gravity." In a strong electrical field water dipoles are ordered in such a way that thermal agitation of molecules produces a SPECIFIC PRESSURE inside the liquid acting in the direction of the field (it is this pressure that makes the water bridge described above "defy gravity"). In certain experiments this specific pressure can lift water: the energy needed for lifting is in fact heat absorbed from the surroundings. If lifted water is allowed to leave the field pushed by the specific pressure (for instance, when water has been lifted between the plates of a capacitor, the specific pressure could push it through a hole in one of the plates), the liquid will form, ideally, an eternal waterfall outside the strong field. Perhaps the device cannot be of any practical use as a heat engine but still it violates the second law of thermodynamics. Pentcho Valev wrote: A few years ago, at the 2002 First International Conference on Quantum Limits to the Second Law, I tried to draw the attention to the fact that charged capacitors immersed in water develop a strange pressure between the plates, a pressure that, on close inspection, seems to violate the second law of thermodynamics: http://link.aip.org/link/?APCPCS/643/430/1 http://www.wbabin.net/valev/valev2.pdf The scientific community remained silent and hostile but now I see the idea that capacitors can violate the second law has been developed ever since: http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/0912/0912.4818v3.pdf "Recently (Physics Letters A 374 (2010) 1801) the concept of vacuum capacitor spontaneously charged harnessing the heat absorbed from a single thermal reservoir at room temperature has been introduced..." http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/0904/0904.3188v4.pdf "In this paper we describe a vacuum spherical capacitor that generates a macroscopic voltage between its spheres harnessing the heat from a single thermal reservoir at room temperature. (...) The author wishes also gratefully acknowledge stimulating and encouraging discussions with Prof. Daniel P. Sheehan (University of San Diego) during the preparation of an early draft of the manuscript." Bravo, Daniel P. Sheehan! You were hostile in 2002 but now I see you have taken some notice of what I told you. Your triumph will come soon: http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2009/dec/13/quantum-challenge-usd-professor/ "Clean-cut and middle-aged, a tenured professor at a conservative Catholic university, Sheehan is hardly a rebel. Yet for years, he and a few other physicists have been pressing peers to re-examine the Second Law of Thermodynamics, one of the most celebrated and cherished tenets of physics. (...) But Sheehan suggests big things are possible if even the tiniest of violations can be proven, and ultimately exploited in an economically feasible way. For example, it might become possible to convert ambient heat into an infinite energy source, he said." Pentcho Valev pvalev(a)yahoo.com
From: Kevin on 5 Jun 2010 12:01 On Jun 5, 12:41 am, Pentcho Valev <pva...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > A few years ago, at the 2002 First International Conference on Quantum > Limits to the Second Law, I tried to draw the attention to the fact > that charged capacitors immersed in water develop a strange pressure > between the plates, a pressure that, on close inspection, seems to > violate the second law of thermodynamics: I don't know that a capacitor in water would violate the second law of thermo... It seems to me that a violation would be more along the lines of energy transport which cannot be accounted for given the limits of einsteins relativity... like spontaneous combustion, for example... and the energy for the combustion came from far out in space.
From: Pentcho Valev on 6 Jun 2010 02:57 Today's scientists stop reading, thinking, even breathing, as soon as they bump into the idea that the second law of thermodynamics might be false or that Einstein's 1905 light postulate might be false: http://www.liferesearchuniversal.com/1984-17.html#seventeen George Orwell: "Crimestop means the faculty of stopping short, as though by instinct, at the threshold of any dangerous thought. It includes the power of not grasping analogies, of failing to perceive logical errors, of misunderstanding the simplest arguments if they are inimical to Ingsoc, and of being bored or repelled by any train of thought which is capable of leading in a heretical direction. Crimestop, in short, means protective stupidity." So a number of fundamental questions simply cannot be discussed in today's science. One of them is: Why does immersing a constant-charge parallel-plate capacitor in water drastically DECREASE (80 times) the force of attraction between the plates while inserting a SOLID dielectric between the plates INCREASES the force of attraction? Pentcho Valev wrote: http://www.physorg.com/news110191847.html "When exposed to a high-voltage electric field, water in two beakers climbs out of the beakers and crosses empty space to meet, forming the water bridge. The liquid bridge, hovering in space, appears to the human eye to defy gravity." In a strong electrical field water dipoles are ordered in such a way that thermal agitation of molecules produces a SPECIFIC PRESSURE inside the liquid acting in the direction of the field (it is this pressure that makes the water bridge described above "defy gravity"). In certain experiments this specific pressure can lift water: the energy needed for lifting is in fact heat absorbed from the surroundings. If lifted water is allowed to leave the field pushed by the specific pressure (for instance, when water has been lifted between the plates of a capacitor, the specific pressure could push it through a hole in one of the plates), the liquid will form, ideally, an eternal waterfall outside the strong field. Perhaps the device cannot be of any practical use as a heat engine but still it violates the second law of thermodynamics. A few years ago, at the 2002 First International Conference on Quantum Limits to the Second Law, I tried to draw the attention to the fact that charged capacitors immersed in water develop a strange pressure between the plates, a pressure that, on close inspection, seems to violate the second law of thermodynamics: http://link.aip.org/link/?APCPCS/643/430/1 http://www.wbabin.net/valev/valev2.pdf The scientific community remained silent and hostile but now I see the idea that capacitors can violate the second law has been developed ever since: http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/0912/0912.4818v3.pdf "Recently (Physics Letters A 374 (2010) 1801) the concept of vacuum capacitor spontaneously charged harnessing the heat absorbed from a single thermal reservoir at room temperature has been introduced..." http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/0904/0904.3188v4.pdf "In this paper we describe a vacuum spherical capacitor that generates a macroscopic voltage between its spheres harnessing the heat from a single thermal reservoir at room temperature. (...) The author wishes also gratefully acknowledge stimulating and encouraging discussions with Prof. Daniel P. Sheehan (University of San Diego) during the preparation of an early draft of the manuscript." Bravo, Daniel P. Sheehan! You were hostile in 2002 but now I see you have taken some notice of what I told you. Your triumph will come soon: http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2009/dec/13/quantum-challenge-usd-professor/ "Clean-cut and middle-aged, a tenured professor at a conservative Catholic university, Sheehan is hardly a rebel. Yet for years, he and a few other physicists have been pressing peers to re-examine the Second Law of Thermodynamics, one of the most celebrated and cherished tenets of physics. (...) But Sheehan suggests big things are possible if even the tiniest of violations can be proven, and ultimately exploited in an economically feasible way. For example, it might become possible to convert ambient heat into an infinite energy source, he said." Pentcho Valev pvalev(a)yahoo.com
From: Zerkon on 6 Jun 2010 09:51
On Fri, 04 Jun 2010 22:41:49 -0700, Pentcho Valev wrote: > seems to > violate the second law of thermodynamics: Isolated systems are impossible? Disorganization is perspective? |