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From: Paul on 27 Sep 2009 22:54 On 2009-09-26 16:36:21 -0500, bo774(a)FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Kelly Bert Manning) said: > Paul (paul-nospamatall.raulerson(a)mac.com) writes: >> I absolutely hate it when Pete's prognostications come true, but COBOL >> is becoming near impossible to get and use on mainstream (i.e. Windows >> and Linux) platforms. > > http://www.freebyte.com/programming/cobol/#freecobolcompilers > http://www.opencobol.org Thank you Kelly - that is a great link. But I do not think that any of those are quite suitable for commercial applications, at least not in my opinion. YMMV. -Paul
From: William M. Klein on 28 Sep 2009 05:17 COBOL-IT is a "for commercial" off-shoot of OpenCOBOL. Check out: http://www.cobol-it.com/ I can't speak to how "successful" it is in meeting its published goals, but it is a possibility. Check out: http://www.cobol-it.com/ PerCOBOL from LegacyJ is another possibility. See: http://www.legacyj.com/lgcyj_perc1.html For IBM mainframe shops, an "upcoming" possibility is zCOBOL (not there YET, but getting closer). See: http://www.zcobol.org/ -- Bill Klein wmklein <at> ix.netcom.com "Paul" <paul-nospamatall.raulerson(a)mac.com> wrote in message news:4ac0256c$0$23776$bbae4d71(a)news.suddenlink.net... > On 2009-09-26 16:36:21 -0500, bo774(a)FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Kelly Bert Manning) > said: > >> Paul (paul-nospamatall.raulerson(a)mac.com) writes: >>> I absolutely hate it when Pete's prognostications come true, but COBOL >>> is becoming near impossible to get and use on mainstream (i.e. Windows >>> and Linux) platforms. >> >> http://www.freebyte.com/programming/cobol/#freecobolcompilers >> http://www.opencobol.org > > Thank you Kelly - that is a great link. But I do not think that any of those > are > quite suitable for commercial applications, at least not in my opinion. YMMV. > > -Paul >
From: Paul on 28 Sep 2009 22:20 On 2009-09-28 04:17:03 -0500, "William M. Klein" <wmklein(a)nospam.ix.netcom.com> said: > COBOL-IT is a "for commercial" off-shoot of OpenCOBOL. Check out: > http://www.cobol-it.com/ > > I can't speak to how "successful" it is in meeting its published goals, but it > is a possibility. > > Check out: > http://www.cobol-it.com/ I could not find any advantage to this over stock OpenCOBOL, and stock OpenCOBOL just isn't quite there yet. Needs things like embedded SQL first, then I expect it to start putting a serious bite on MicroFocus. Things Linux and AT&T System V Unix. :) > > PerCOBOL from LegacyJ is another possibility. See: > http://www.legacyj.com/lgcyj_perc1.html PerCOBOL is great. Indeed, this is a really good COBOL/Java Hybrid, and I will be watching them in the future. :) > > For IBM mainframe shops, an "upcoming" possibility is zCOBOL (not there > YET, but > getting closer). See: > http://www.zcobol.org/
From: William M. Klein on 29 Sep 2009 00:06 The advantages (personal opinion only) of COBOL-IT over OpenCOBOL (for the NON-"open source guru") A) (per your comment) does have embedded SQL support B) has an interactive debugger C) (for production support) has OPTIONAL (paid for) production (COBOL compiler) support D) "easy" to install and use for "Windows-type" person (who doesn't know Unix/Linux or C) * * * * * Major disadvantage (for some) is that it is not a "truly open source" ongoing "group" project. I *think* that OC has more "ongoing development" going on (especially with the Add1toCOBOL group). -- Bill Klein wmklein <at> ix.netcom.com "Paul" <paul-nospamatall.raulerson(a)mac.com> wrote in message news:4ac16eee$0$23782$bbae4d71(a)news.suddenlink.net... > On 2009-09-28 04:17:03 -0500, "William M. Klein" > <wmklein(a)nospam.ix.netcom.com> said: > >> COBOL-IT is a "for commercial" off-shoot of OpenCOBOL. Check out: >> http://www.cobol-it.com/ >> >> I can't speak to how "successful" it is in meeting its published goals, but >> it >> is a possibility. >> >> Check out: >> http://www.cobol-it.com/ > > I could not find any advantage to this over stock OpenCOBOL, and stock > OpenCOBOL > just isn't quite there yet. Needs things like embedded SQL first, then I > expect it to start > putting a serious bite on MicroFocus. Things Linux and AT&T System V Unix. :) > >> >> PerCOBOL from LegacyJ is another possibility. See: >> http://www.legacyj.com/lgcyj_perc1.html > > > > PerCOBOL is great. Indeed, this is a really good COBOL/Java Hybrid, and I will > be watching them in the future. :) > >> >> For IBM mainframe shops, an "upcoming" possibility is zCOBOL (not there YET, >> but >> getting closer). See: >> http://www.zcobol.org/ > >
From: Paul on 29 Sep 2009 22:03
Why, so it does! I stand corrected, and will look t it again. Thanks. -Paul On 2009-09-28 23:06:32 -0500, "William M. Klein" <wmklein(a)nospam.ix.netcom.com> said: > The advantages (personal opinion only) of COBOL-IT over OpenCOBOL (for the > NON-"open source guru") > > A) (per your comment) does have embedded SQL support > B) has an interactive debugger > C) (for production support) has OPTIONAL (paid for) production (COBOL compiler) > support > D) "easy" to install and use for "Windows-type" person (who doesn't know > Unix/Linux or C) > > * * * * * > > Major disadvantage (for some) is that it is not a "truly open source" ongoing > "group" project. I *think* that OC has more "ongoing development" going on > (especially with the Add1toCOBOL group). |