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From: Alistair on 27 Sep 2007 13:48 On 27 Sep, 04:38, LX-i <lxi0...(a)netscape.net> wrote: > Pete Dashwood wrote: > > Obviously, generated code makes all the difference. Here's code from 2 > > compilers running in the same OS Environment, yet look at the figures for > > subscripts; the P4 creams the Core 2, although the Core 2 is theoretically > > faster. In fact, the P4 is faster on everything except the null test :-) And > > both systems are way faster than IBM mainframes. (That still hasn't quite > > sunk in yet; after working on mainframes for decades it is hard for me to > > realize that a notebook costing < .01% of what a mainframe costs, could be > > orders of magnitude faster...) > > I determined that, at our office, when someone posted that KJV > parse-and-count coding challenge. It ran on my PC (using Fujitsu 5) in > about 37 seconds. It took over 20 minutes to run on our development > mainframe! > > I pointed that out to the "powers that be" but they didn't find it > nearly as interesting. I guess *they* weren't the ones waiting 20+ > minutes for a compile (for a few of the larger programs)... > And if I were your boss I would want to know who, and under what grounds, your run had been authorised and who would be paying for the cpu cycles.
From: LX-i on 27 Sep 2007 23:14 HeyBub wrote: > Linux is a knock-off of a 40-year old operating system originally designed > by a money-losing division of the local telephone company. It has been > enhanced by designers who truely believe the DOS command-line interface was > not arcane enough. heh! :) > There is a rumor that Ubuntu is secretely funded by Microsoft in an effort > to entice away the malcontent portion of the computing community thereby > allowing those of us remaining to have an enjoyable computing experience, > free from hectoring, snarling, and pomposity. Then they shouldn't have done such a good job at it. :) Ubuntu is by far the most popular non-commercial distribution because it comes in a working state. SimplyMEPIS had done this the best before Ubuntu came along, and in recent iterations, it's based on Ubuntu instead of straight Debian. > Visit the microsoft.public.windows.vista.general or > microsoft.public.windowsxp.general newsgroups to get a taste of the > invective and spite visited upon Micros~1 by the Ubuntu devotees. Ah - there's just more of them. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~ / \/ _ o ~ Live from Albuquerque, NM! ~ ~ _ /\ | ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Business E-mail ~ daniel @ "Business Website" below ~ ~ Business Website ~ http://www.djs-consulting.com ~ ~ Tech Blog ~ http://www.djs-consulting.com/linux/blog ~ ~ Personal E-mail ~ "Personal Blog" as e-mail address ~ ~ Personal Blog ~ http://daniel.summershome.org ~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ GEEKCODE 3.12 GCS/IT d s-:+ a C++ L++ E--- W++ N++ o? K- w$ !O M-- V PS+ PE++ Y? !PGP t+ 5? X+ R* tv b+ DI++ D+ G- e h---- r+++ z++++ "Who is more irrational? A man who believes in a God he doesn't see, or a man who's offended by a God he doesn't believe in?" - Brad Stine
From: LX-i on 27 Sep 2007 23:18 Pete Dashwood wrote: > Ironically, my Windows MS environment is now becoming a springboard for > Linux as well, all through the power of DotNET and Mono. (The converse is > also true; people can develop using Linux/Unix and Mono, and have it run on > Windows, no problem.) I haven't had much luck with MonoDevelop. However, hopefully that will change, as I'm taking a .NET course this semester. I'll make it work. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~ / \/ _ o ~ Live from Albuquerque, NM! ~ ~ _ /\ | ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Business E-mail ~ daniel @ "Business Website" below ~ ~ Business Website ~ http://www.djs-consulting.com ~ ~ Tech Blog ~ http://www.djs-consulting.com/linux/blog ~ ~ Personal E-mail ~ "Personal Blog" as e-mail address ~ ~ Personal Blog ~ http://daniel.summershome.org ~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ GEEKCODE 3.12 GCS/IT d s-:+ a C++ L++ E--- W++ N++ o? K- w$ !O M-- V PS+ PE++ Y? !PGP t+ 5? X+ R* tv b+ DI++ D+ G- e h---- r+++ z++++ "Who is more irrational? A man who believes in a God he doesn't see, or a man who's offended by a God he doesn't believe in?" - Brad Stine
From: LX-i on 27 Sep 2007 23:48 Alistair wrote: > On 27 Sep, 04:38, LX-i <lxi0...(a)netscape.net> wrote: >> I determined that, at our office, when someone posted that KJV >> parse-and-count coding challenge. It ran on my PC (using Fujitsu 5) in >> about 37 seconds. It took over 20 minutes to run on our development >> mainframe! >> >> I pointed that out to the "powers that be" but they didn't find it >> nearly as interesting. I guess *they* weren't the ones waiting 20+ >> minutes for a compile (for a few of the larger programs)... >> > > And if I were your boss I would want to know who, and under what > grounds, your run had been authorised and who would be paying for the > cpu cycles. We paid for the cycles whether we used them or not. And, with the amount of work I produced, I could've done my taxes on the mainframe and they wouldn't have complained. (They probably would have asked me to do theirs too!) -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~ / \/ _ o ~ Live from Albuquerque, NM! ~ ~ _ /\ | ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Business E-mail ~ daniel @ "Business Website" below ~ ~ Business Website ~ http://www.djs-consulting.com ~ ~ Tech Blog ~ http://www.djs-consulting.com/linux/blog ~ ~ Personal E-mail ~ "Personal Blog" as e-mail address ~ ~ Personal Blog ~ http://daniel.summershome.org ~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ GEEKCODE 3.12 GCS/IT d s-:+ a C++ L++ E--- W++ N++ o? K- w$ !O M-- V PS+ PE++ Y? !PGP t+ 5? X+ R* tv b+ DI++ D+ G- e h---- r+++ z++++ "Who is more irrational? A man who believes in a God he doesn't see, or a man who's offended by a God he doesn't believe in?" - Brad Stine
From: HeyBub on 28 Sep 2007 08:58
LX-i wrote: > >> Visit the microsoft.public.windows.vista.general or >> microsoft.public.windowsxp.general newsgroups to get a taste of the >> invective and spite visited upon Micros~1 by the Ubuntu devotees. > > Ah - there's just more of them. Yeah. We call 'em MSanthropes. |