From: Skybuck Flying on 29 Aug 2005 21:00 "Del Cecchi" <dcecchi.nospam(a)att.net> wrote in message news:3mndbhF17n1ndU1(a)individual.net... > > "Derek Gladding" <derek-spammenot(a)ebollocks.net> wrote in message > news:MokNe.94199$n51.34228(a)fe14.usenetserver.com... > > Skybuck Flying wrote: > > > >> > >> "Bob Monsen" <rcsurname(a)comcast.net> wrote in message > >> news:5vmdneq0d61ksW7fRVn-jg(a)comcast.com... > >>> Skybuck Flying wrote: > >>> > "Bob Monsen" <rcsurname(a)comcast.net> wrote in message > >>> > news:8uudndJMU45UTm_fRVn-qg(a)comcast.com... > > > > Hi Skybuck > > > > [snip] > > > >>> > So first I would need to understand how fast eletronics and a 0 or > >>> > 1 > >> signal > >>> > can move across a wire > > Somewhere between 10 and 30 cm/ns or 35 to 100 ps/cm. > > > > > > http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=transmission+line+theory&btnG=Google+Search > > > >>> > and can be detected by devices, ports etc. > > > > Just off of the top of my head (it's 5.30am here, and I've just done > > a 16 hour day ... are you *sure* you want to move into this field? > > ;-) ) > > > > Here's some pointers to help with your research: > > > > (warning, links may have wrapped) > > > > http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=schmitt+trigger&btnG=Search > > http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=transistor+switching+frequency&btnG=Search > > http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=dynamic+current+vlsi&btnG=Search > > http://www.google.com/search?q=capacitive+load&btnG=Search&hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1 > > http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=signal+to+noise+ratio&btnG=Search > > http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=ground+bounce&btnG=Search > > http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=phase+locked+loop&btnG=Search > > http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=clock+recovery&btnG=Search > > > > There's a lot more than this, but IO isn't really my core experience. > > Hopefully this will give you a starting point. > > > I/O is my experience, but I'm not sure skybuck is worth helping, given > past history. Look at it this way, you not only helping me but anybody else interested in the same matter. A google will suffice to find thez answer =D In the name of many :D thx Bye, Skybuck ;) > >>> > > > > > [snip] > > > >> > >> I seek a simple but realistic answer to my question for a real world > >> device. If it's not simple then so be it. > >> > >> I do not seek a dumbed down version of reality so the MIT open > >> courseware > >> is not for me. > >> > > > > Everything you will ever deal with in electronics, logic, or computer > > architecture is an approximation to some degree. One of the key skills > > is choosing the right approximation for the specific task at hand. > > > > HTH > > > > - Derek > > > > > >> Bye, > >> Skybuck. > > > > > >
From: Del Cecchi on 30 Aug 2005 11:17 Skybuck Flying wrote: > "Del Cecchi" <dcecchi.nospam(a)att.net> wrote in message > news:3mndbhF17n1ndU1(a)individual.net... > >>"Derek Gladding" <derek-spammenot(a)ebollocks.net> wrote in message >>news:MokNe.94199$n51.34228(a)fe14.usenetserver.com... >> >>>Skybuck Flying wrote: >>> >>> >>>>"Bob Monsen" <rcsurname(a)comcast.net> wrote in message >>>>news:5vmdneq0d61ksW7fRVn-jg(a)comcast.com... >>>> >>>>>Skybuck Flying wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>"Bob Monsen" <rcsurname(a)comcast.net> wrote in message >>>>>>news:8uudndJMU45UTm_fRVn-qg(a)comcast.com... >>> >>>Hi Skybuck >>> >>>[snip] >>> >>> >>>>>>So first I would need to understand how fast eletronics and a 0 or >>>>>>1 >>>> >>>>signal >>>> >>>>>>can move across a wire >> >>Somewhere between 10 and 30 cm/ns or 35 to 100 ps/cm. >> >>> >>> > http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=transmission+line+theory&btnG=Google+Search > >>>>>>and can be detected by devices, ports etc. >>> >>>Just off of the top of my head (it's 5.30am here, and I've just done >>>a 16 hour day ... are you *sure* you want to move into this field? >>>;-) ) >>> >>>Here's some pointers to help with your research: >>> >>>(warning, links may have wrapped) >>> >>> > > http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=schmitt+trigger&btnG=Search > > http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=transistor+switching+frequency&btnG=Search > > http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=dynamic+current+vlsi&btnG=Search > > http://www.google.com/search?q=capacitive+load&btnG=Search&hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1 > > http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=signal+to+noise+ratio&btnG=Search > > http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=ground+bounce&btnG=Search > > http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=phase+locked+loop&btnG=Search > > http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=clock+recovery&btnG=Search > >>>There's a lot more than this, but IO isn't really my core experience. >>>Hopefully this will give you a starting point. >>> >> >>I/O is my experience, but I'm not sure skybuck is worth helping, given >>past history. > > > Look at it this way, you not only helping me but anybody else interested in > the same matter. A google will suffice to find thez answer =D > > In the name of many :D thx > > Bye, > Skybuck ;) > I thought you were killfiled, but thunderbird reincarnated you. If I wanted to provide tutorial for the ages I would write a book, or at least a web page. All the information is widely available in textbooks and on the web. And making obnoxious comments while at the same time asking for help isn't constructive -- Del Cecchi "This post is my own and doesnýt necessarily represent IBMýs positions, strategies or opinions.ý
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