From: William B. Lurie on 3 Mar 2010 09:16 I find, in my Events Viewer, error 45062 as shown below: Event Type: Error Event Source: ati2mtag Event Category: CRT Event ID: 45062 Date: 3/3/2010 Time: 8:29:43 AM User: N/A Computer: COMPAQ-2006 Description: CRT invalid display type Data: 0000: 00 00 00 00 01 00 5a 00 ......Z. 0008: 2c 00 00 00 06 b0 00 c0 ,....�.� 0010: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........ 0018: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........ 0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........ It's related to the ATI, and it doesn't go away when I download and reinstall the drivers. Device Manager shows the correct drivers. The CRT hasn't been changed in any way since the machine went into service 3 years ago. ?????
From: VanguardLH on 3 Mar 2010 18:45 William B. Lurie wrote: > I find, in my Events Viewer, error 45062 as shown > below: > > Event Type: Error > Event Source: ati2mtag > Event Category: CRT > Event ID: 45062 > Date: 3/3/2010 > Time: 8:29:43 AM > User: N/A > Computer: COMPAQ-2006 > Description: > CRT invalid display type > Data: > 0000: 00 00 00 00 01 00 5a 00 ......Z. > 0008: 2c 00 00 00 06 b0 00 c0 ,....�.� > 0010: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........ > 0018: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........ > 0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........ > > It's related to the ATI, and it doesn't go away when I > download and reinstall the drivers. Device Manager shows the > correct drivers. The CRT hasn't been changed in any way > since the machine went into service 3 years ago. ????? ati2mtag: ATI Radeon WindowsNT Miniport Driver So is there really some problem with your host that you chose to not divulge here, like it is freezing, rebooting, BSODs, or other video or hardware problems? ATI's drivers have long been known to spew out irrelevant and vaporous errors. Try a different version of the Catalyst driver. I don't remember for which versions but let's say 7.6-7.8 caused an ati2mtag error. Try versions before and after that to see if the error goes away (it is a bogus error and isn't a problem other than users getting upset to see it). When you change to a different version driver, you need to check its use with your video-critical applications, like games, which are sensitive to changes in the video driver. It took me testing through many different versions of the Catalyst driver to find which was the best (but not perfect) one for use on my host with my OS and suite of applications and games. The result was that that best choice for my applications was an older driver version but which ended up spewing out a bogus error in the event logs. Later I found that one more minor version earlier didn't have the bogus error and would've probably been just as compatible. I wasn't interested in eradicating errors in the event log that had no real effect on the behavior of my host. It had to do with the driver doing an incorrect detect of a monitor on the unconnected external port on the video card for dual monitors (your card may have gone cheap and not provided the 2nd video port but its support was still implemented in the chipset on the video card). After finding the best Catalyst driver version for my host and programs, it was probably a couple years before I decided to test newer versions. At that time, I moved to 9.3. While the original ati2mtag error disappeared, a different one showed up (something about VIP). Since everything works despite the error, I'm not wasting time on solving a problem that exists only in a bogus error. It's now up to version 10.2 but I don't care. Everything works so there is no need to change to a different driver to only encounter new bugs in the new code. Only if I install some program that forces me to test if a later Catalyst version will fix some problems with that new software would I bother to change. Regarding drivers, and unless a newer version actually fixes a problem with your software, newer isn't better. Instead newer is just different. If everything is working regarding video operation, just ignore the bogus error. ATI repeatedly generates versions of Catalyst that produce bogus errors. Sometimes the older drivers are a better choice.
From: William B. Lurie on 3 Mar 2010 19:09 VanguardLH wrote: > William B. Lurie wrote: > >> I find, in my Events Viewer, error 45062 as shown >> below: >> >> Event Type: Error >> Event Source: ati2mtag >> Event Category: CRT >> Event ID: 45062 >> Date: 3/3/2010 >> Time: 8:29:43 AM >> User: N/A >> Computer: COMPAQ-2006 >> Description: >> CRT invalid display type >> Data: >> 0000: 00 00 00 00 01 00 5a 00 ......Z. >> 0008: 2c 00 00 00 06 b0 00 c0 ,....�.� >> 0010: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........ >> 0018: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........ >> 0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........ >> >> It's related to the ATI, and it doesn't go away when I >> download and reinstall the drivers. Device Manager shows the >> correct drivers. The CRT hasn't been changed in any way >> since the machine went into service 3 years ago. ????? > > ati2mtag: ATI Radeon WindowsNT Miniport Driver > > So is there really some problem with your host that you chose to not divulge > here, like it is freezing, rebooting, BSODs, or other video or hardware > problems? ATI's drivers have long been known to spew out irrelevant and > vaporous errors. > > Try a different version of the Catalyst driver. I don't remember for which > versions but let's say 7.6-7.8 caused an ati2mtag error. Try versions > before and after that to see if the error goes away (it is a bogus error and > isn't a problem other than users getting upset to see it). When you change > to a different version driver, you need to check its use with your > video-critical applications, like games, which are sensitive to changes in > the video driver. It took me testing through many different versions of the > Catalyst driver to find which was the best (but not perfect) one for use on > my host with my OS and suite of applications and games. The result was that > that best choice for my applications was an older driver version but which > ended up spewing out a bogus error in the event logs. Later I found that > one more minor version earlier didn't have the bogus error and would've > probably been just as compatible. I wasn't interested in eradicating errors > in the event log that had no real effect on the behavior of my host. It had > to do with the driver doing an incorrect detect of a monitor on the > unconnected external port on the video card for dual monitors (your card may > have gone cheap and not provided the 2nd video port but its support was > still implemented in the chipset on the video card). > > After finding the best Catalyst driver version for my host and programs, it > was probably a couple years before I decided to test newer versions. At > that time, I moved to 9.3. While the original ati2mtag error disappeared, a > different one showed up (something about VIP). Since everything works > despite the error, I'm not wasting time on solving a problem that exists > only in a bogus error. It's now up to version 10.2 but I don't care. > Everything works so there is no need to change to a different driver to only > encounter new bugs in the new code. Only if I install some program that > forces me to test if a later Catalyst version will fix some problems with > that new software would I bother to change. Regarding drivers, and unless a > newer version actually fixes a problem with your software, newer isn't > better. Instead newer is just different. > > If everything is working regarding video operation, just ignore the bogus > error. ATI repeatedly generates versions of Catalyst that produce bogus > errors. Sometimes the older drivers are a better choice. Vang, I have no actual known problem, but when I see red X's in the Events log, I feel that I have a corrupted system and I don't like that. This all started because I wanted to know why, sometimes, the ATI function doesn't function right. Like, I'll go away and expect the ATI to turn things off and hibernate in a few hours, and I return 8 hours later and find Desktop on, not even Screen-Saver. So we zeroed in on ATI and we're still digging. The answer to your question is, video operation is working fine, but ATI is questionable. Getting even a download of the Catalyst drivers now installed is not easy, and getting multiple ones to try is just going too far, even tho' it does make sense.
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