From: Gil Alsberg on
thanks for the link. Ed's comments are enlightening!

<ed1701(a)juno.com> wrote in message
news:1130795695.415241.279990(a)g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
> Doing a google search of this newsgroup will give you some good advice.
> One thread that came to my mind was this one:
> http://makeashorterlink.com/?S6362241C
>
> The models in the CSWP aren't all that hard, and don't require any
> knowledge outside of basic training classes. As I remember it it was
> more of a speed and comfort-with-the-software thing.
>
> VAR's tend to run bootcamps - maybe someone who has gone through one
> can comment on its usefulness
>


From: WT on
Here are a couple links to past conversations. I also copied my
discussion
right after taking the test.

WT


http://groups.google.com/group/comp.cad.solidworks/browse_frm/thread/3940cc78377f55a3/5cf021035751ff94?hl=en&lr=lang_en&ie=UTF-8&rnum=3&prev=/groups%3Fhl%3Den%26lr%3Dlang_en%26ie%3DUTF-8%26q%3DCSWP%2BTiffany%26btnG%3DSearch%26meta%3D#5cf021035751ff94

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.cad.solidworks/browse_thread/thread/48cbf015c7e84428/a72224f440e78eda?q=cswp+tiffany&rnum=1&hl=en#a72224f440e78eda

Newsgroups: comp.cad.solidworks
From: "Wayne Tiffany" <wayne.tiff...(a)asi.com>-Find messages by this
author
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 13:33:21 -0600
Local: Sat, Jan 24 2004 1:33 pm
Subject: Re: Certified SolidWorks Professional

I was one of the very few that passed the test at SWW2004 and would
offer some tips. If interested, read on.

1. Go through the "What's new" in 2004 - I rudely found out the test
was 2004, not 2003. Even if you don't use it yet, study up on the
changes - the written test killed me.

2. Make sure you know how to do all the basics, even if you don't
normally use them. This would include lofts, revolves, sweeps,
ellipses, in-context mates & features, reference geometry, symmetry,
linking, patterns, min/max/center, external references, configs, custom
properties, etc, etc, etc.

3. Think about your special area - free form, sheetmetal, top-down
design. Really know how to use all the features available - study up
on what's available for tools & features in that area.

4. Drawings: Multisheet, section views, detail views, all types of
views, BOM, customizing the title block, inserting geometric
tolerancing, standard tolerances, all kinds of dims, datums, etc, etc,
etc.

5. Most of all - read everything. (Did you get this far in this
email?) Take the time to understand the design intent, read the
scoring criteria carefully, do the work, go back and review the scoring
criteria to make sure you covered what's required. I can't emphasize
this point enough.

All in all, I felt it was a good, fair test. Long day (8-5:30 - ran
out only for coffee) but a good solid check of most of the basics, not
just a "gimmee." The skills portion is "open book" in that you can use
the help section, but if you have to look up much, you will run out of
time. Most importantly, read.


WT




"Gil Alsberg" <gil(a)zoopee.org> wrote in message
news:newscache$v6t8pi$4p8$1(a)news.actcom.co.il...
> Hi Everyone,
> I decided to take the CSWP exam at my near VAR. in order to be ready and
> in
> sync with the test requirements and question style, I wanted to try and
> solve some old CSWP exams from previous years, but I can't seem to find
> any
> of them on the web besides the regular sample test which appears on
> SolidWorks web site, which lacks the crucial 3rd hands on part. does
> anybody
> of you guys can give me some info on the test besides the formal
> information
> on the solidworks site? is there an additional source of CSWP exams?
>
> thanks,
> Gil

From: Gil Alsberg on
Wayne, thanks for the useful info. I hope I'll pass the test, because the
idea that a computer will score my test is a little bit frightening.

"WT" <wayne.tiffany(a)asi.com> wrote in message
news:1130871900.755027.33730(a)o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
> Here are a couple links to past conversations. I also copied my
> discussion
> right after taking the test.
>
> WT
>
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.cad.solidworks/browse_frm/thread/3940cc78377f55a3/5cf021035751ff94?hl=en&lr=lang_en&ie=UTF-8&rnum=3&prev=/groups%3Fhl%3Den%26lr%3Dlang_en%26ie%3DUTF-8%26q%3DCSWP%2BTiffany%26btnG%3DSearch%26meta%3D#5cf021035751ff94
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.cad.solidworks/browse_thread/thread/48cbf015c7e84428/a72224f440e78eda?q=cswp+tiffany&rnum=1&hl=en#a72224f440e78eda
>
> Newsgroups: comp.cad.solidworks
> From: "Wayne Tiffany" <wayne.tiff...(a)asi.com>-Find messages by this
> author
> Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 13:33:21 -0600
> Local: Sat, Jan 24 2004 1:33 pm
> Subject: Re: Certified SolidWorks Professional
>
> I was one of the very few that passed the test at SWW2004 and would
> offer some tips. If interested, read on.
>
> 1. Go through the "What's new" in 2004 - I rudely found out the test
> was 2004, not 2003. Even if you don't use it yet, study up on the
> changes - the written test killed me.
>
> 2. Make sure you know how to do all the basics, even if you don't
> normally use them. This would include lofts, revolves, sweeps,
> ellipses, in-context mates & features, reference geometry, symmetry,
> linking, patterns, min/max/center, external references, configs, custom
> properties, etc, etc, etc.
>
> 3. Think about your special area - free form, sheetmetal, top-down
> design. Really know how to use all the features available - study up
> on what's available for tools & features in that area.
>
> 4. Drawings: Multisheet, section views, detail views, all types of
> views, BOM, customizing the title block, inserting geometric
> tolerancing, standard tolerances, all kinds of dims, datums, etc, etc,
> etc.
>
> 5. Most of all - read everything. (Did you get this far in this
> email?) Take the time to understand the design intent, read the
> scoring criteria carefully, do the work, go back and review the scoring
> criteria to make sure you covered what's required. I can't emphasize
> this point enough.
>
> All in all, I felt it was a good, fair test. Long day (8-5:30 - ran
> out only for coffee) but a good solid check of most of the basics, not
> just a "gimmee." The skills portion is "open book" in that you can use
> the help section, but if you have to look up much, you will run out of
> time. Most importantly, read.
>
>
> WT
>
>
>
>
> "Gil Alsberg" <gil(a)zoopee.org> wrote in message
> news:newscache$v6t8pi$4p8$1(a)news.actcom.co.il...
>> Hi Everyone,
>> I decided to take the CSWP exam at my near VAR. in order to be ready and
>> in
>> sync with the test requirements and question style, I wanted to try and
>> solve some old CSWP exams from previous years, but I can't seem to find
>> any
>> of them on the web besides the regular sample test which appears on
>> SolidWorks web site, which lacks the crucial 3rd hands on part. does
>> anybody
>> of you guys can give me some info on the test besides the formal
>> information
>> on the solidworks site? is there an additional source of CSWP exams?
>>
>> thanks,
>> Gil
>


From: John Eric Voltin on
The computer scoring method is nice because it is so fast. When I took the
CSWP test, the proctor graded each test while we waited. In just a few
minutes, we had our scores.

I will say that I doubt the computer scoring is perfect. On my test, the
computer scoring indicated that my models failed to provide certain
functionality although that functionality was definitely present. In fact,
the details that were scored as wrong were relatively simple tasks, not the
complex ones. Therefore, my confidence level on the incorrect details was
extermely high. I suspect that some of my methods did not match the
pre-defined methods the computer was searching for. Therefore, I submitted
a request for these details to be checked manually, but I never received a
response.

Fortunately, I did pass the test so this was really an academic question. I
have always been curious about the accuracy of the scoring system.
Independent verification of the results would have been nice.

--

- John

John Eric Voltin
Mechanical Engineer
Agile Technology
512-633-0394

"Gil Alsberg" <gil(a)zoopee.org> wrote in message
news:newscache$tdnbpi$24n$1(a)news.actcom.co.il...
> Wayne, thanks for the useful info. I hope I'll pass the test, because the
> idea that a computer will score my test is a little bit frightening.
>
> "WT" <wayne.tiffany(a)asi.com> wrote in message
> news:1130871900.755027.33730(a)o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
>> Here are a couple links to past conversations. I also copied my
>> discussion
>> right after taking the test.
>>
>> WT
>>
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.cad.solidworks/browse_frm/thread/3940cc78377f55a3/5cf021035751ff94?hl=en&lr=lang_en&ie=UTF-8&rnum=3&prev=/groups%3Fhl%3Den%26lr%3Dlang_en%26ie%3DUTF-8%26q%3DCSWP%2BTiffany%26btnG%3DSearch%26meta%3D#5cf021035751ff94
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.cad.solidworks/browse_thread/thread/48cbf015c7e84428/a72224f440e78eda?q=cswp+tiffany&rnum=1&hl=en#a72224f440e78eda
>>
>> Newsgroups: comp.cad.solidworks
>> From: "Wayne Tiffany" <wayne.tiff...(a)asi.com>-Find messages by this
>> author
>> Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 13:33:21 -0600
>> Local: Sat, Jan 24 2004 1:33 pm
>> Subject: Re: Certified SolidWorks Professional
>>
>> I was one of the very few that passed the test at SWW2004 and would
>> offer some tips. If interested, read on.
>>
>> 1. Go through the "What's new" in 2004 - I rudely found out the test
>> was 2004, not 2003. Even if you don't use it yet, study up on the
>> changes - the written test killed me.
>>
>> 2. Make sure you know how to do all the basics, even if you don't
>> normally use them. This would include lofts, revolves, sweeps,
>> ellipses, in-context mates & features, reference geometry, symmetry,
>> linking, patterns, min/max/center, external references, configs, custom
>> properties, etc, etc, etc.
>>
>> 3. Think about your special area - free form, sheetmetal, top-down
>> design. Really know how to use all the features available - study up
>> on what's available for tools & features in that area.
>>
>> 4. Drawings: Multisheet, section views, detail views, all types of
>> views, BOM, customizing the title block, inserting geometric
>> tolerancing, standard tolerances, all kinds of dims, datums, etc, etc,
>> etc.
>>
>> 5. Most of all - read everything. (Did you get this far in this
>> email?) Take the time to understand the design intent, read the
>> scoring criteria carefully, do the work, go back and review the scoring
>> criteria to make sure you covered what's required. I can't emphasize
>> this point enough.
>>
>> All in all, I felt it was a good, fair test. Long day (8-5:30 - ran
>> out only for coffee) but a good solid check of most of the basics, not
>> just a "gimmee." The skills portion is "open book" in that you can use
>> the help section, but if you have to look up much, you will run out of
>> time. Most importantly, read.
>>
>>
>> WT
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Gil Alsberg" <gil(a)zoopee.org> wrote in message
>> news:newscache$v6t8pi$4p8$1(a)news.actcom.co.il...
>>> Hi Everyone,
>>> I decided to take the CSWP exam at my near VAR. in order to be ready and
>>> in
>>> sync with the test requirements and question style, I wanted to try and
>>> solve some old CSWP exams from previous years, but I can't seem to find
>>> any
>>> of them on the web besides the regular sample test which appears on
>>> SolidWorks web site, which lacks the crucial 3rd hands on part. does
>>> anybody
>>> of you guys can give me some info on the test besides the formal
>>> information
>>> on the solidworks site? is there an additional source of CSWP exams?
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>> Gil
>>
>
>
>



From: matt on
In article <Fp3af.63997$GQ.28270(a)tornado.texas.rr.com>, jevoltin(a)agile-
technology.com says...
> The computer scoring method is nice because it is so fast. ...


One piece of useful information might be to try to take the scoring
criteria as literally as possible, even if it seems a bit silly or not
the best way to do it. Since it is a computer that grades the model, if
you give it what it is looking for, the results should be predictable.
You may feel that you have to "dumb down" your models somewhat. There
aren't any truly difficult modeling problems on the test, the main
difficulty is understanding the criteria.

Matt
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