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From: Michael Black on 5 Oct 2009 19:16
On Mon, 5 Oct 2009, Keith Keller wrote:

> On 2009-10-05, Simon Sibbez <simon.sibbez(a)buerotiger.de> wrote:
>> dreaded wrote:
>>
>>> http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20091005#feature
>>
>> mooni kwote: "Unfortunately, the work involved in maintaining Slackware
>> generally means I end up turning to a different distro."
>>
>> nuff said.
>
> 'Nuff said to what point? Do you think everyone thinks it's too much
> work to maintain a Slackware install?
>
I thought he was dismissing the review based on the quoted sentence.
"She thinks Slackware is too hard to maintain, what does she know?"

Michael

From: Keith Keller on 5 Oct 2009 23:44
On 2009-10-05, Michael Black <et472(a)ncf.ca> wrote:
> On Mon, 5 Oct 2009, Keith Keller wrote:
>
>> On 2009-10-05, Simon Sibbez <simon.sibbez(a)buerotiger.de> wrote:
>>> dreaded wrote:
>>>
>>>> http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20091005#feature
>>>
>>> mooni kwote: "Unfortunately, the work involved in maintaining Slackware
>>> generally means I end up turning to a different distro."
>>>
>>> nuff said.
>>
>> 'Nuff said to what point? Do you think everyone thinks it's too much
>> work to maintain a Slackware install?
>>
> I thought he was dismissing the review based on the quoted sentence.
> "She thinks Slackware is too hard to maintain, what does she know?"

I suppose it could be interpreted that way. Still, if one writes "nuff
said", it should actually be enough that was said. :)

In general, the factual portions of the review seemed accurate, at least
the non-X11 portions (since I don't currently have a Slackware box with
X on it). It's only when she ventures into opinion that the wheels
start to come off.

--keith

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From: Aaron W. Hsu on 6 Oct 2009 17:43
On Mon, 05 Oct 2009 23:44:36 -0400, Keith Keller
<kkeller-usenet(a)wombat.san-francisco.ca.us> wrote:

> In general, the factual portions of the review seemed accurate, at least
> the non-X11 portions (since I don't currently have a Slackware box with
> X on it). It's only when she ventures into opinion that the wheels
> start to come off.

Unfortunately, the review on the X portions were not particularly accurate
either. Most systems today do not require an Xorg.conf file. Moreover,
there is a default vesa xorg.conf file provided in the /etc/X11 directory
that can be used. I used it as the base for a laptop I recently installed
that didn't work with the X nv drivers, and required the proprietary
Nvidia ones.

On my Thinkpad, however, no configuration or Xorg.conf file was necessary,
and things just worked. Enabling X by default is also easy to do, so the
complaint that configuring Slackware takes longer than one of these other
machines just isn't true for many cases.

Aaron W. Hsu

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victims may be the most oppressive. -- C. S. Lewis
From: Res on 6 Oct 2009 21:03
On Mon, 5 Oct 2009, notbob wrote:

> On 2009-10-05, Simon Sibbez <simon.sibbez(a)buerotiger.de> wrote:
>
>> mooni kwote: "Unfortunately, the work involved in maintaining Slackware
>> generally means I end up turning to a different distro."
>
>> nuff said.
>
> Sorry, but not "nuff". Here's the bottom line with Slackware:
>
> "Slackware also gives the users absolute control over what goes onto
> their system and how things are configured."

Cant agree more, i had the displeasure of trying to replace exim in ubuntu
with postfix on someones laptop, it insisted on removing 15 other things
that were wanted by the user as well, what a joke.



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From: Just A. User on 7 Oct 2009 04:07
On Mon, 05 Oct 2009 16:44:18 -0400, Aaron W. Hsu wrote:

> It is also THE distro for no-nonsense installations that you just want
> to work and use without having to bother with learning many gotchas
> where the distribution doesn't match the rest of the world. When I want
> a stable system that will work well, not let me down, and won't require
> hours of my time to make work just as I want it, I go for Slackware, not
> something like RedHat or Ubuntu.
>
> Aaron W. Hsu

When do you want an unstable system that doesn't work well, lets you down
and requires hours of your time to work? Inquiring minds want to know...

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