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From: Shreyas on 3 Jun 2010 13:51 Folks, Just quite could not stop taking your inputs before I start my learning curve to shape up. Should I use one of these frameworks or just *K*eep *I*t *S*imple and *S*tupid and learn it the traditional way? Thoughts? -- Regards, Shreyas
From: "larry on 3 Jun 2010 13:55 First spend time working with straight up PHP, writing your own stuff, throwing it away, and writing it again. What you'll learn that way is immeasurable. Then pick a framework (Cake, Drupal, Symfony, Zend, PEAR, whatever) and learn it, maybe two. Try working with it and extending it. Then do the bulk of your serious work with that framework, having had enough experience to understand what it's doing and why. The timeframe for that process will vary widely from a few months to a few years depending on how quickly you pick stuff up and how much time you have, but that's going to get you the best education and productivity. --Larry Garfield On 6/3/10 12:51 PM, Shreyas wrote: > Folks, > > Just quite could not stop taking your inputs before I start my learning > curve to shape up. > > Should I use one of these frameworks or just *K*eep *I*t *S*imple and *S*tupid > and learn it the traditional way? Thoughts? >
From: Shreyas on 3 Jun 2010 17:40 Larry, That's a very nice way to learn stuff. That's what I am doing but probably in a very crude way. I am just reading a PHP book and doing those examples. Would you recommend any other innovative way of learning and mastering this language? Regards, Shreyas On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 11:25 PM, larry(a)garfieldtech.com < larry(a)garfieldtech.com> wrote: > First spend time working with straight up PHP, writing your own stuff, > throwing it away, and writing it again. What you'll learn that way is > immeasurable. > > Then pick a framework (Cake, Drupal, Symfony, Zend, PEAR, whatever) and > learn it, maybe two. Try working with it and extending it. > > Then do the bulk of your serious work with that framework, having had > enough experience to understand what it's doing and why. > > The timeframe for that process will vary widely from a few months to a few > years depending on how quickly you pick stuff up and how much time you have, > but that's going to get you the best education and productivity. > > --Larry Garfield > > > On 6/3/10 12:51 PM, Shreyas wrote: > >> Folks, >> >> Just quite could not stop taking your inputs before I start my learning >> curve to shape up. >> >> Should I use one of these frameworks or just *K*eep *I*t *S*imple and >> *S*tupid >> >> and learn it the traditional way? Thoughts? >> >> > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > -- Regards, Shreyas
From: Shreyas on 4 Jun 2010 07:01 Trying again. --Shreyas On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 3:10 AM, Shreyas <shreyasbr(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Larry, > > That's a very nice way to learn stuff. That's what I am doing but probably > in a very crude way. > > I am just reading a PHP book and doing those examples. Would you recommend > any other innovative way of learning and mastering this language? > > Regards, > Shreyas > > > On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 11:25 PM, larry(a)garfieldtech.com < > larry(a)garfieldtech.com> wrote: > >> First spend time working with straight up PHP, writing your own stuff, >> throwing it away, and writing it again. What you'll learn that way is >> immeasurable. >> >> Then pick a framework (Cake, Drupal, Symfony, Zend, PEAR, whatever) and >> learn it, maybe two. Try working with it and extending it. >> >> Then do the bulk of your serious work with that framework, having had >> enough experience to understand what it's doing and why. >> >> The timeframe for that process will vary widely from a few months to a few >> years depending on how quickly you pick stuff up and how much time you have, >> but that's going to get you the best education and productivity. >> >> --Larry Garfield >> >> >> On 6/3/10 12:51 PM, Shreyas wrote: >> >>> Folks, >>> >>> Just quite could not stop taking your inputs before I start my learning >>> curve to shape up. >>> >>> Should I use one of these frameworks or just *K*eep *I*t *S*imple and >>> *S*tupid >>> >>> and learn it the traditional way? Thoughts? >>> >>> >> -- >> PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) >> To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php >> >> > > > -- > Regards, > Shreyas > -- Regards, Shreyas
From: =?UTF-8?Q?Hans_=C3=85hlin?= on 4 Jun 2010 07:29
The thing I did beside the stuff already mentioned is, I took stuff from real life and I tried to define them and then write a program that handled/simulated it. ********************************************** Hans à hlin Tel: +46761488019 icq: 275232967 http://www.kronan-net.com/ irc://irc.freenode.net:6667 - TheCoin ********************************************** 2010/6/4 Shreyas <shreyasbr(a)gmail.com>: > Trying again. > > --Shreyas > > On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 3:10 AM, Shreyas <shreyasbr(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Larry, >> >> That's a very nice way to learn stuff. That's what I am doing but probably >> in a very crude way. >> >> I am just reading a PHP book and doing those examples. Would you recommend >> any other innovative way of learning and mastering this language? >> >> Regards, >> Shreyas >> >> >> On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 11:25 PM, larry(a)garfieldtech.com < >> larry(a)garfieldtech.com> wrote: >> >>> First spend time working with straight up PHP, writing your own stuff, >>> throwing it away, and writing it again.  What you'll learn that way is >>> immeasurable. >>> >>> Then pick a framework (Cake, Drupal, Symfony, Zend, PEAR, whatever) and >>> learn it, maybe two.  Try working with it and extending it. >>> >>> Then do the bulk of your serious work with that framework, having had >>> enough experience to understand what it's doing and why. >>> >>> The timeframe for that process will vary widely from a few months to a few >>> years depending on how quickly you pick stuff up and how much time you have, >>> but that's going to get you the best education and productivity. >>> >>> --Larry Garfield >>> >>> >>> On 6/3/10 12:51 PM, Shreyas wrote: >>> >>>> Folks, >>>> >>>> Just quite could not stop taking your inputs before I start my learning >>>> curve to shape up. >>>> >>>> Should I use one of these frameworks or just *K*eep *I*t *S*imple and >>>> *S*tupid >>>> >>>> and learn it the traditional way? Thoughts? >>>> >>>> >>> -- >>> PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) >>> To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Regards, >> Shreyas >> > > > > -- > Regards, > Shreyas > |