From: Mike Easter on 1 Jun 2010 20:13 Bear Bottoms wrote: > Mike Easter >> As the author sez in the calcurse manual: "I like programs which use >> Text User Interfaces, because they are simple, fast, portable and >> efficient," >> >> Why would you call that silly or foolish? >> >> > > I'm sure most of the world would agree with you and Craig...let's do away > with GUI's. Good grief. > I suspect that by your facetious/sarcastic tone that you might be confusing or thinking of a 'pure' commandline interface with or as opposed to a curses (for /n/x systems) or 'text user interface' which terminology I think spun off - historically came after - the term GUI -- in which the curses or TUI has the same kind of power or functionality of the GUI plus more, because it typically can *also* do commandline, as in the exemplar app. Surely you have encountered and used a TUI with all of the features and more of a GUI? Yes? No? -- Mike Easter
From: Mike Easter on 1 Jun 2010 21:11 Bear Bottoms wrote: > Mike Easter >> I suspect that by your facetious/sarcastic tone that you might be >> confusing or thinking of a 'pure' commandline interface with or as >> opposed to a curses (for /n/x systems) or 'text user interface' which >> terminology I think spun off - historically came after - the term GUI >> -- in which the curses or TUI has the same kind of power or >> functionality of the GUI plus more, because it typically can *also* do >> commandline, as in the exemplar app. >> >> Surely you have encountered and used a TUI with all of the features >> and more of a GUI? Yes? No? >> >> > > Within reason yes...such has KeyBreeze, SlickRun, Executor, or the like > where typists enjoy their skills with productivity. However, to throw > disdain on GUI interfaces is utterly stupid and regressive. > By your response, I will conclude that you have never used a TUI with GUI powers, so the answers to the above Y/N qx is 'No'. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Text_user_interface <MS section> "Later, the interface became deeply influenced by GUIs, adding pull-down menus, overlapping windows, dialog boxes and GUI widgets operated by mnemonics or keyboard shortcuts. Soon mouse input was added�either at text resolution as a simple colored box or at graphical resolution thanks to the ability of the EGA and VGA display adapters to redefine the text character shapes by software�providing additional functionality." http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/reviews/6964/1/ Discovering ncurses, the GUI for the Linux Console -- The ncurses library allows you to write programs that work in a GUI-like way, but which will run within a normal terminal emulator. You've almost certainly already encountered programs that use ncurses, including: <snip> Calcurse is a curses app - check out its docs and screenshots. There are curses/ncurses web browsers, midnight commander, mutt, yast. -- Mike Easter
From: proteanthread on 1 Jun 2010 22:11 On May 31, 5:42 pm, Craig <netburg...(a)REMOVEgmail.com> wrote: > Haven't tried it but gui's are for wimps! Long live cursers! > > > calcurse is a text-based calendar and scheduling application. It > > helps keep track of events, appointments and everyday tasks. A > > configurable notification system reminds user of upcoming deadlines, > > and the curses based interface can be customized to suit user needs. > > All of the commands are documented within an online help system. > > <http://culot.org/calcurse/> > > -- > -Craig Thanks! Long live the cursor!
From: Mike Easter on 1 Jun 2010 22:49 Bear Bottoms wrote: > Mike Easter >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Text_user_interface > That is gross > > Kinda like wearing jeans to a black tie event. I guess that is what you will be saying about non-animated, two-dimensional, non-aero, non-translucent, non-reflective vanilla GUI pretty soon. Wherever did you get the idea that a slick efficient user interface was supposed to be a black tie mess of geegaws and unnecessary formalities, decorations, and eye-candy? -- Mike Easter
From: za kAT on 2 Jun 2010 06:40 On Wed, 2 Jun 2010 10:08:02 +0000 (UTC), Bear Bottoms wrote: > Mike Easter <MikeE(a)ster.invalid> wrote in news:86lv5nFp6mU1 > @mid.individual.net: > >> Wherever did you get the idea that a slick efficient user interface was >> supposed to be a black tie mess of geegaws and unnecessary formalities, >> decorations, and eye-candy? > > eggzactly...and color videos...ew. Black and white is the way to go. I'm with you on this one Bottom. TUI's are downright plain ugly. The likes of MC sucks. Give me either a black and white terminal, or a colourful GUI anyday. -- zakAT(a)pooh.the.cat - Sergeant Tech-Com, DN38416. Assigned to protect you. You've been targeted for denigration!
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