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From: Paulg0 on 4 Jan 2010 12:43 "Denis McMahon" <denis.m.f.mcmahon(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:99CdnYvQYuTQkt_WnZ2dnUVZ8nOdnZ2d(a)giganews.com... > Roger Mills wrote: > Possibly they only receive a partial A-number, eg the first 4 .. 6 digits > (not counting the leading 0). I have a Flextel number that just removes the last 3 digits of witheld numbers inthe logs Paul
From: David Woolley on 4 Jan 2010 16:53 Ivor Jones wrote: > > What's the point of being ex-directory if you then proceed to tell > everybody your number..?! There are different reasons for going ex-directory and, at least at one time, there were different levels, e.g. - do not reveal under any circumstances; - reveal to anyone who can provide the name and address; - provide to anyone who phones directory enquiries, but do not print.
From: Denis McMahon on 4 Jan 2010 19:05 David Woolley wrote: > Ivor Jones wrote: > >> >> What's the point of being ex-directory if you then proceed to tell >> everybody your number..?! > > There are different reasons for going ex-directory and, at least at one > time, there were different levels, e.g. > > - do not reveal under any circumstances; > - reveal to anyone who can provide the name and address; > - provide to anyone who phones directory enquiries, but do not print. also NQR - they wouldn't even admit that a listing existed Rgds Denis McMahon
From: Rupert Moss-Eccardt on 6 Jan 2010 14:55 Ivor Jones wrote: > On 04/01/10 13:41, Roger Mills wrote: > > [snip] > >> *However*, I have a number of friends who are ex-directory and whose >> numbers >> are automatically withheld - and they claim that they never explicitly >> asked >> for it to be withheld. I suspect that when you apply to go >> ex-directory, the >> default is (or maybe was, in the past) that the number gets withheld. >> Anyone >> care to comment? > > What's the point of being ex-directory if you then proceed to tell > everybody your number..?! Ah. I think you misunderstand a number of things. Being ex-directory stops people being able to use the directory to, from your name, determine your phone number. Withholding your number stops people knowing the originating number of a call they are about to receive. I know of at least one person who publishes a number professionally which gets to them on a PAYG phone but calls out from another phone which is always withheld. There are good reasons to do this. One thing that people forget is that a phone number does not identify an individual, just a piece of equipment. In the same way a car number plate cannot be used to prove the location of a person but it may help suggest things.
From: Graham. on 10 Jan 2010 07:54 "Denis McMahon" <denis.m.f.mcmahon(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:99CdnYvQYuTQkt_WnZ2dnUVZ8nOdnZ2d(a)giganews.com... > Roger Mills wrote: > >> *However*, I have a number of friends who are ex-directory and whose numbers are automatically withheld - and they claim that >> they never explicitly asked for it to be withheld. I suspect that when you apply to go ex-directory, the default is (or maybe >> was, in the past) that the number gets withheld. Anyone care to comment? > > Hmm, it may have been the case that when customer controlled cli presentation was initially implemented, a once-off pass was made > against the subscriber database such that all ex-directory numbers at the time were initially defaulted to with-held, but I doubt > that they'd continue to do this. I remember press reports about customers being annoyed at BT for initially releasing their CLI by default when they were X-D IIRC, there was a policy change some time later to as you describe above. -- Graham. %Profound_observation%
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