From: Paulg0 on

"Denis McMahon" <denis.m.f.mcmahon(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
news:99CdnYvQYuTQkt_WnZ2dnUVZ8nOdnZ2d(a)giganews.com...
> Roger Mills wrote:
> Possibly they only receive a partial A-number, eg the first 4 .. 6 digits
> (not counting the leading 0).

I have a Flextel number that just removes the last 3 digits of witheld
numbers inthe logs

Paul

From: David Woolley on
Ivor Jones wrote:

>
> What's the point of being ex-directory if you then proceed to tell
> everybody your number..?!

There are different reasons for going ex-directory and, at least at one
time, there were different levels, e.g.

- do not reveal under any circumstances;
- reveal to anyone who can provide the name and address;
- provide to anyone who phones directory enquiries, but do not print.
From: Denis McMahon on
David Woolley wrote:
> Ivor Jones wrote:
>
>>
>> What's the point of being ex-directory if you then proceed to tell
>> everybody your number..?!
>
> There are different reasons for going ex-directory and, at least at one
> time, there were different levels, e.g.
>
> - do not reveal under any circumstances;
> - reveal to anyone who can provide the name and address;
> - provide to anyone who phones directory enquiries, but do not print.

also NQR - they wouldn't even admit that a listing existed

Rgds

Denis McMahon
From: Rupert Moss-Eccardt on
Ivor Jones wrote:
> On 04/01/10 13:41, Roger Mills wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
>> *However*, I have a number of friends who are ex-directory and whose
>> numbers
>> are automatically withheld - and they claim that they never explicitly
>> asked
>> for it to be withheld. I suspect that when you apply to go
>> ex-directory, the
>> default is (or maybe was, in the past) that the number gets withheld.
>> Anyone
>> care to comment?
>
> What's the point of being ex-directory if you then proceed to tell
> everybody your number..?!

Ah. I think you misunderstand a number of things.
Being ex-directory stops people being able to use the directory to, from
your name, determine your phone number.
Withholding your number stops people knowing the originating number of a
call they are about to receive.

I know of at least one person who publishes a number professionally
which gets to them on a PAYG phone but calls out from another phone
which is always withheld. There are good reasons to do this.

One thing that people forget is that a phone number does not identify an
individual, just a piece of equipment. In the same way a car number
plate cannot be used to prove the location of a person but it may help
suggest things.

From: Graham. on


"Denis McMahon" <denis.m.f.mcmahon(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:99CdnYvQYuTQkt_WnZ2dnUVZ8nOdnZ2d(a)giganews.com...
> Roger Mills wrote:
>
>> *However*, I have a number of friends who are ex-directory and whose numbers are automatically withheld - and they claim that
>> they never explicitly asked for it to be withheld. I suspect that when you apply to go ex-directory, the default is (or maybe
>> was, in the past) that the number gets withheld. Anyone care to comment?
>
> Hmm, it may have been the case that when customer controlled cli presentation was initially implemented, a once-off pass was made
> against the subscriber database such that all ex-directory numbers at the time were initially defaulted to with-held, but I doubt
> that they'd continue to do this.

I remember press reports about customers being annoyed at BT for
initially releasing their CLI by default when they were X-D
IIRC, there was a policy change some time later to as you describe above.

--
Graham.

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