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From: Plusnet Support Team on 30 Apr 2010 03:22
On 26/04/2010 20:31, alexd wrote:
> On 26/04/10 08:44, T i m wrote:
>> On Mon, 26 Apr 2010 02:34:00 +0100, Phil<philusenet(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> Any idea if they can detect tethering?
>>
>> I'm still interested in the answer to a similar question but for
>> Vodafone.
>
> Yes, any network operator can have a go at passively fingerprinting what
> OS you're using by looking at, say, User Agent strings from browsers,
> email clients, etc - if your IMEI says you've got a Nokia N95, you're
> not likely to be using IE8 on it or downloading Sophos updates, are you?
> They may also be able to look at TCP and IP headers for clues.

Wonder if the user agent for Firefox on the n900 is similar to that of
the desktop variant in which case?

> The question is, do they? If you don't find yourself kicked off
> sharpish, then as Peter mentioned, it's probably something that only
> gets looked into if you go over your allowance.

I use tethering from time on Voda with my n900 and JoikuSpot. They've
never bothered me and I've gone over my allowance quiet significantly
during recent months.

> The means to drop a connection if you've got the wrong user agent
> certainly exists even on low end firewalls so no doubt the networks have
> the ability at their fingertips. If they started doing this, you could
> [for web browsing at least] use a user agent switcher plugin to pretend
> to be a mobile browser.
>
>> I can't see (morally anyway) that doing the same 'through' the phone
> > would be any different from their providing the bandwidth pov?
>
> Nope, me either, but the networks desperately don't want to be mere
> providers of bandwidth. They're using a working assumption that handset
> users won't use as much data as tetherers. Every week a new handset
> comes out that further jeopardises this assumption. If they were just
> honest about it and charged for data rather than for a time period,
> they'd avoid this kind of bullshit.

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From: Steve on 30 Apr 2010 03:20
On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 21:26:29 +0100, T i m <news(a)spaced.me.uk> wrote:

>On Mon, 26 Apr 2010 18:23:01 +0100, Peter
><occassionally-confused(a)nospam.co.uk> wrote:
>
><snip>
>>
>>and read away. No concrete information but it sounds like the network
>>won't be looking unless you run a high data usage to start with.
>
>Thanks for that, I'll tell him to use it as required (I suspect
>infrequently so it should be ok).
>
>Cheers, T i m

I'm on T-Mobile and I've done it a few times when my Internet
connection was down and they've never bothered...

From: Phil on 2 May 2010 00:59
Thanks for the replies everyone. On balance then it looks like I'll risk it.

Thanks again.
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