From: uncle beer on
There appear to be more than six of us with this or similar problems,
based on the number of posts in this newsgroup. Considering the
complexity of fixing the KB886903 problem MS obviously has not carefully
thought out at least these two updates. I use newsgroups regularly but a
number of people I know who use computers have no idea what a newsgroup
is or that MS offers free support for update problems. Then there are
the people who have no idea what a Windows Update is, but that's another
subject!

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Thank you. Very well put. Considering how EASY Microsoft slips these
updates into our computers, this particular fix can be considered pretty
daunting. Aside from that, all the contents of the fix mentioned did
NOTHING on my machine: .net couldn't be deleted or updated, and the
registry also couldn't be 'zapped' either.

Why doesn't one of our esteemed MVPs suggest to higher-ups that an
all-encompassing fix be devised, or at least alert one of his superiors to
the fact that an update has gone terribly wrong?

Oh well....


Yours truly,
Uncle Beer


From: uncle beer on
>6 out of 60million or so doesn't sound horribly wrong to me -

I absolutely GUARANTEE that more than 6 users are affected by this. But
you'd never admit to that. :^ \

>Considering that MS only 'put' those patches on your system AFTER you've
>asked them to -

Aha: Bill Gates (and his "most valuable" team) care about customer
satisfaction--- until it's no longer convenient.



Yours truly,
Uncle Beer



From: Noel Paton on

"uncle beer" <unclebeer(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:cvas4m$2aq$1(a)reader13.wxs.nl...
> >6 out of 60million or so doesn't sound horribly wrong to me -
>
> I absolutely GUARANTEE that more than 6 users are affected by this. But
> you'd never admit to that. :^ \

On the contrary - I admit to it every day!
but with any major problem with any update, these groups are flooded within
hours, and there's been only a steady trickle of problems with any of the
recent patches.

>
>>Considering that MS only 'put' those patches on your system AFTER you've
>>asked them to -
>
> Aha: Bill Gates (and his "most valuable" team) care about customer
> satisfaction--- until it's no longer convenient.

They care - and we (MVP's) care more, for the simple reason that we get it
in the neck from guys like you when things do go wrong. All we can do is
feed back data that we may get, in the hope that fixes are forthcoming.
None of the MVP's is employed by MS (that automatically disqualifies them),
but all are people who care greatly about what MS calls the 'End-User
Experience' - which is why we come here in our own time and at our own
expense to help out those who ask for assistance.

Since you seem intent on bitching, rather than being constructive or
actually asking for assistance, that's my last word in this thread.


>
>
>
> Yours truly,
> Uncle Beer
>
>
>


From: jonb on
I'm willing to wait 10days for a new auto update fix, but I don't want a
complicated umpteen step manual fix. This computer has received auto updates
for 3 yrs and I have never had a problem until this one 7days? ago. My only
complaints are I don't have the critical update in the meantime and the extra
1min shutdown time.

If MS wants to send me a $1000 check, I'll sell/ship them my whole computer
box for analysis! Anyone else #me too# on this?

"Noel Paton" wrote:

> 6 out of 60million or so doesn't sound horribly wrong to me - although I
> admit it's VERY frustrating for the 6 of you.
>
> It's not even all that likely that the same problem is causing the effect
> you're seeing.
>
> Considering that MS only 'put' those patches on your system AFTER you've
> asked them to - and have no knowledge whatever of your system, I'd say that
> that's pretty impressive quality control.
>
> If you really want help - then you need to offer more than #me too!# to
> assist those who are prepared to.
>

From: Dr Teeth on
On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 20:09:05 -0000, "Noel Paton"
<NoelDPspamless(a)btopenworld.com> wrote:

>6 out of 60million or so doesn't sound horribly wrong to me - although I
>admit it's VERY frustrating for the 6 of you.

First, you don't know that it is only six. It is only six *that you
have seen* that have posted here.

Second, you don't know it's been installed 60 million times.

Tosser.

Kerplunk!
--
Cheers,

Guy

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** resist the temptation to beat the living daylights
** out of someone who richly deserves it.