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From: David Marcus on 6 Feb 2007 17:30 G. Frege wrote: > On Tue, 06 Feb 2007 15:07:21 -0700, Virgil <virgil(a)comcast.net> wrote: > > >> Numbers *are* their representations. [WM] > >> > > Numerals are no more numbers than names are people. > > It seems that this is a common "theme" among cranks: they constantly > mis-take the name with the object denoted by the name. It is a natural mistake. The White Knight in "Through the Looking Glass" knew the difference. -- David Marcus
From: G. Frege on 6 Feb 2007 17:36 On Tue, 6 Feb 2007 17:30:01 -0500, David Marcus <DavidMarcus(a)alumdotmit.edu> wrote: >>>> >>>> Numbers *are* their representations. [WM] >>>> >>> Numerals are no more numbers than names are people. >>> >> It seems that this is a common "theme" among cranks: they constantly >> mis-take the name with the object denoted by the name. >> > It is a natural mistake. [...] > This may very well be the case. But, hell, if you are involved in mathematics, logic and/or philosophy _you have to be_ informed, imho! --- I mean, this really is a fundamental insight. F. -- E-mail: info<at>simple-line<dot>de
From: Virgil on 6 Feb 2007 17:40 In article <riqhs2p733ccqh5tlqgv7aoopqn0ql0e11(a)4ax.com>, G. Frege <nomail(a)invalid> wrote: > On Tue, 06 Feb 2007 13:31:17 -0700, Virgil <virgil(a)comcast.net> wrote: > > > > > WM seems to be unable to understand anything having to do with > > mathematics or logic, therefore he should stop here. > > > This is rather old news... > > "Learn some logic. Learn some mathematics. Or better yet, give up > mathematics and take up basket weaving. " (Bob Kolker, sci. math, > 5 Jun. 2005) > > > F. Wm is a slow learner. Possibly a non-learner.
From: David Marcus on 6 Feb 2007 17:55 G. Frege wrote: > On Tue, 6 Feb 2007 17:30:01 -0500, David Marcus > <DavidMarcus(a)alumdotmit.edu> wrote: > > >>>> > >>>> Numbers *are* their representations. [WM] > >>>> > >>> Numerals are no more numbers than names are people. > >>> > >> It seems that this is a common "theme" among cranks: they constantly > >> mis-take the name with the object denoted by the name. > >> > > It is a natural mistake. [...] > > > This may very well be the case. But, hell, if you are involved in > mathematics, logic and/or philosophy _you have to be_ informed, imho! > --- I mean, this really is a fundamental insight. Are cranks "involved"? :) -- David Marcus
From: David Marcus on 6 Feb 2007 17:56
Virgil wrote: > In article <riqhs2p733ccqh5tlqgv7aoopqn0ql0e11(a)4ax.com>, > G. Frege <nomail(a)invalid> wrote: > > > On Tue, 06 Feb 2007 13:31:17 -0700, Virgil <virgil(a)comcast.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > WM seems to be unable to understand anything having to do with > > > mathematics or logic, therefore he should stop here. > > > > > This is rather old news... > > > > "Learn some logic. Learn some mathematics. Or better yet, give up > > mathematics and take up basket weaving. " (Bob Kolker, sci. math, > > 5 Jun. 2005) > > > > > > F. > > Wm is a slow learner. Possibly a non-learner. Maybe he is still practicing his basket weaving. -- David Marcus |