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From: Archimedes Plutonium on 30 Jul 2010 23:54


Robert L. Oldershaw wrote:
> Well, well. There was another pleasant surprise in the science news
> yesterday.
>
> http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/07/100728092633.htm
>
> Astronomers have discovered an "unusual" planetary system wherein the
> two planets orbit the system's core object in a relatively close-in
> 2:1 resonance.
>
> According to one of the astrophysicists involved: "... we are at a
> loss to explain why this happened. This is the latest in a long line
> of strange discoveries about extrosolar planets, ... . Each time we
> think we can explain them, something else comes along."
>
> But of course, helium-like atoms have no such problems with 2:1
> resonances. These states are relatively common in excited atomic
> scale systems because of their stability.
>
> In fact, all of the "strange discoveries", such as pulsar/planets,
> incredibly close-in gas giant planets, and ubiquitous non-coplanarity,
> are not the least bit strange if you understand the discrete self-
> similarity between Stellar Scale systems and Atomic Scale systems. In
> fact, one could anticipate the previous "strange discoveries", and the
> many more to come until the boffins realize that stars and atoms are
> the same physical systems with the same physics. They only appear to
> superficially differ because of the extremely large differences in
> discrete L,T,M scales.
>
> It's a whole new discrete fractal world!
> Watch the patttern emerge from the scattered observational pieces of
> the puzzle.
>
> RLO
> www.amherst.edu/~rloldershaw

Thanks Robert for that reference site and the evidence seems to be
growing in leaps and bounds of a Atom Totality Universe. Thanks

Archimedes Plutonium
http://www.iw.net/~a_plutonium/
whole entire Universe is just one big atom
where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies
From: Archimedes Plutonium on 31 Jul 2010 00:30
I should include this to sci.astro, rather than sci.fractal

All of fractals comes from the central idea in physics that the small
and large are all atoms,
same as self-similarity.

When Democritus in ancient Greek times said " the only things
existing, are atoms",
he really meant it. If you believe it, then logic says the totality is
one big atom. So if
only atoms exist, then the Universe is both self similar and size
makes no difference.

Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
> Robert L. Oldershaw wrote:
> > Well, well. There was another pleasant surprise in the science news
> > yesterday.
> >
> > http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/07/100728092633.htm
> >
> > Astronomers have discovered an "unusual" planetary system wherein the
> > two planets orbit the system's core object in a relatively close-in
> > 2:1 resonance.
> >
> > According to one of the astrophysicists involved: "... we are at a
> > loss to explain why this happened. This is the latest in a long line
> > of strange discoveries about extrosolar planets, ... . Each time we
> > think we can explain them, something else comes along."
> >
> > But of course, helium-like atoms have no such problems with 2:1
> > resonances. These states are relatively common in excited atomic
> > scale systems because of their stability.
> >
> > In fact, all of the "strange discoveries", such as pulsar/planets,
> > incredibly close-in gas giant planets, and ubiquitous non-coplanarity,
> > are not the least bit strange if you understand the discrete self-
> > similarity between Stellar Scale systems and Atomic Scale systems. In
> > fact, one could anticipate the previous "strange discoveries", and the
> > many more to come until the boffins realize that stars and atoms are
> > the same physical systems with the same physics. They only appear to
> > superficially differ because of the extremely large differences in
> > discrete L,T,M scales.
> >
> > It's a whole new discrete fractal world!
> > Watch the patttern emerge from the scattered observational pieces of
> > the puzzle.
> >
> > RLO
> > www.amherst.edu/~rloldershaw
>
> Thanks Robert for that reference site and the evidence seems to be
> growing in leaps and bounds of a Atom Totality Universe. Thanks
>
> Archimedes Plutonium
> http://www.iw.net/~a_plutonium/
> whole entire Universe is just one big atom
> where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies
From: Osher Doctorow on 31 Jul 2010 00:38
From Osher Doctorow

I've also gotten some arguably interesting results tying in related 2
or 1/2 ratios and also 0.43 to 0.488 ratios in my last few posts in my
Quantum Gravity thread.

Osher Doctorow

On Jul 30, 9:30 pm, Archimedes Plutonium
<plutonium.archime...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> I should include this to sci.astro, rather than sci.fractal
>
> All of fractals comes from the central idea in physics that the small
> and large are all atoms,
> same as self-similarity.
From: Robert L. Oldershaw on 31 Jul 2010 12:42
On Jul 31, 12:30 am, Archimedes Plutonium
<plutonium.archime...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> When Democritus in ancient Greek times said " the only things
> existing, are atoms",
> he really meant it. If you believe it, then logic says the totality is
> one big atom. So if
> only atoms exist, then the Universe is both self similar and size
> makes no difference.
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Just a note: Democritus, Discrete Scale Relativity, and any natural
philosopher worth his salt knows that nature's discrete self-similar
hierarchy is unbounded, i.e., infinite.

Therefore there cannot be a "largest atom" and it is incorrect to say
that the Universe is an atom. If you go looking for the "uber-atom"
you are on a fool's errand because the sequence of ever-larger atoms
is infinite and does not end.

If you want to say that there are an infinite number self-similar
atoms that differ in discrete size scales ( ..., Atomic Scale atoms,
Stellar Scale atoms, Galactic Scale atoms,..., that would appear to be
more defendable.

RLO
www.amherst.edu/~rloldershaw


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