From: --CELKO-- on 18 Jun 2010 11:17 I view CHAR(n) as an important constraint. For example: zip_code CHAR(5) NOT NULL CHECK (zip_code LIKE '[0-9][0-9][0-9][0-9][0-9]')
From: J.B. Moreno on 18 Jun 2010 11:43 In article <79235e0c-8c31-4315-9d3e-a8160f2a55fd(a)c10g2000yqi.googlegroups.com>, --CELKO-- <jcelko212(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > I view CHAR(n) as an important constraint. For example: > > zip_code CHAR(5) NOT NULL > CHECK (zip_code LIKE '[0-9][0-9][0-9][0-9][0-9]') And when you decide to allow non-US addresses? -- J.B. Moreno
From: Erland Sommarskog on 18 Jun 2010 17:28 J.B. Moreno (planB(a)newsreaders.com) writes: > --CELKO-- <jcelko212(a)earthlink.net> wrote: >> Can you give me a CHAR(32) first name, even in Greek, Polish or >> Amerind? > > Could be a hoax, but if you google for the longest first name, it's > quite a bit more than 32 characters. > > (Although CHAR anything other than 1 or 2 is questionable, make it > varchar and be generous). Well, the column declaration that Celko balked at is varchar(32), not char(32). In the database I work with firstname, extraname and lastname are all varchar(36). There are probably situations where our users find this too short. Why is left as an exercise to the reader. -- Erland Sommarskog, SQL Server MVP, esquel(a)sommarskog.se Links for SQL Server Books Online: SQL 2008: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/sqlserver/cc514207.aspx SQL 2005: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/sqlserver/bb895970.aspx SQL 2000: http://www.microsoft.com/sql/prodinfo/previousversions/books.mspx
From: --CELKO-- on 19 Jun 2010 09:23 >> And when you decide to allow non-US addresses? << You missed the point of the example, which was that length is a constraint. I can pull up thousands of examples of fixed-length standards ZIP and ZIP+4 codes are for the US and only the US. The generic term is "postal code" and they are national (unfortunately). Most are now numeric to avoid alphabet and language problems. I cover this in my book on Standards, where I compare the US, Canada and the UK as representives of the major types of code design in the UPU.
From: --CELKO-- on 19 Jun 2010 09:33 >> In the database I work with firstname, extraname and lastname are all varchar(36). There are probably situations where our users find this too short. Why is left as an exercise to the reader. << There is a history about why 35 shows up as an address length. In the 1950's the mailing labels used for magazines and junk mail were 3.5 inches wide and 5 lines long. Printers were 10 or 12 pitch (pitch = characters per inch pitch; is the term "pitch" still used?). So the postal standards were set for safety, and pretty much never changed. All the abbreviation codes, special names (i.e. "Palos Verdes Estates" => "PVE"), etc were designed with that limit in mind. I just read an article on problems with names this morning -- http://www.kalzumeus.com/2010/06/17/falsehoods-programmers-believe-about-names
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