From: Tim Williams on
That's not PS, that's MP4...........

Tim

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"Don Lancaster" <don(a)tinaja.com> wrote in message
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> Free download at < http://www.tinaja.com/videos/ps1.mp4 >
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> Presently needs a three minute download.
> We eventually will get it on YouTube as well.
>
> Other classic reprints at < http://www.tinaja.com/glair01.asp#early >
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>
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From: Don Lancaster on
On 8/9/2010 1:43 PM, Tim Williams wrote:
> That's not PS, that's MP4...........
>
> Tim
>


No, our regular web host does not have enough bandwidth or the correct
software to real time serve multiple video watchers. They are working on
alternatives.

And, of course, all of the stills were done with PostScript.


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From: Tim Williams on
"Don Lancaster" <don(a)tinaja.com> wrote in message
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> On 8/9/2010 1:43 PM, Tim Williams wrote:
>> That's not PS, that's MP4...........
>
> No, our regular web host does not have enough bandwidth or the correct
> software to real time serve multiple video watchers. They are working on
> alternatives.
>
> And, of course, all of the stills were done with PostScript.

I mean, I would be more impressed if the video itself were PS. You can do
3D drawings, so what about the 4th dimension--time? You should be able to
write that whole thing in about 22kB of PS. ;^)

Speaking of MP4, it's ironic that such small PS files are rasterized, then
JPEG compressed. They look truely terrible. It would be neat if you
could encapsulate PS inside an MP4 stream. MP4 is a stream container, but
it's not specified for PS content, is it?

There are standards for variable quality, scalable, streamable images,
like JPEG2000, which perhaps could be integrated with vector media like PS
and SVG. I suppose it'll be several decades before we get a video format,
and the computational power to encode and decode it, which can do all
these things, in four dimensions. 3D vector animations with "unlimited"
resolution will be pretty fuckin sweet when it gets here, though...

On a tangentially related subject, Don, I don't suppose you know of
programs (or scripts) good for converting vector graphics formats, like
for instance Paint Shop files? All the ones I've seen create a raster
image. Eugh.

Tim

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From: Spehro Pefhany on
On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 17:26:03 -0500, the renowned "Tim Williams"
<tmoranwms(a)charter.net> wrote:

>"Don Lancaster" <don(a)tinaja.com> wrote in message
>news:8cb900F2qhU1(a)mid.individual.net...
>> On 8/9/2010 1:43 PM, Tim Williams wrote:
>>> That's not PS, that's MP4...........
>>
>> No, our regular web host does not have enough bandwidth or the correct
>> software to real time serve multiple video watchers. They are working on
>> alternatives.
>>
>> And, of course, all of the stills were done with PostScript.
>
>I mean, I would be more impressed if the video itself were PS. You can do
>3D drawings, so what about the 4th dimension--time? You should be able to
>write that whole thing in about 22kB of PS. ;^)

Hammond seems to be able to get animations in their PS files.

http://www.hammondmfg.com/pdf/1590B.pdf

>Speaking of MP4, it's ironic that such small PS files are rasterized, then
>JPEG compressed. They look truely terrible. It would be neat if you
>could encapsulate PS inside an MP4 stream. MP4 is a stream container, but
>it's not specified for PS content, is it?
>
>There are standards for variable quality, scalable, streamable images,
>like JPEG2000, which perhaps could be integrated with vector media like PS
>and SVG. I suppose it'll be several decades before we get a video format,
>and the computational power to encode and decode it, which can do all
>these things, in four dimensions. 3D vector animations with "unlimited"
>resolution will be pretty fuckin sweet when it gets here, though...
>
>On a tangentially related subject, Don, I don't suppose you know of
>programs (or scripts) good for converting vector graphics formats, like
>for instance Paint Shop files? All the ones I've seen create a raster
>image. Eugh.
>
>Tim


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From: Chris S. on

"Don Lancaster" <don(a)tinaja.com> wrote in message
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> On 8/9/2010 1:43 PM, Tim Williams wrote:
>> That's not PS, that's MP4...........
>>
>> Tim
>>
>
>
> No, our regular web host does not have enough bandwidth or the correct
> software to real time serve multiple video watchers. They are working on
> alternatives.
>
> And, of course, all of the stills were done with PostScript.
>
>
> --
> Many thanks,
>
> Don Lancaster voice phone: (928)428-4073
> Synergetics 3860 West First Street Box 809 Thatcher, AZ 85552
> rss: http://www.tinaja.com/whtnu.xml email: don(a)tinaja.com
>
> Please visit my GURU's LAIR web site at http://www.tinaja.com

Well Don,
It was good to see you "In person"
Good presentation. No way in hell you would remember it, but
we chatted on the phone several times back when I was an engineer
at the old National Bureau of Standards. I picked your brain and
actually built your "TV Typewriter" It became my keyboard on my "Micro 8"
8008 machine.

And to the rest of you, forgive me my Techie Transgressions.

Chris