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From: Bob Levine on 2 Mar 2010 07:59 "Tony Harding" <tharding(a)newsguy.com> wrote in message news:hmiaii0ut2(a)news4.newsguy.com... > Why, what's the advantage? Not going to maintain that Acrobat isn't > bloated, but what improvement would someone like the OP or me see from > making the switch? Besides, you can't beat thee price. :) There is none and there might well be some disadvantages. PDF has come a long long way from just a way to send an electronic proof. It can now support transparency, form fields, movies, and various other multimedia and interactive features. Many PDF readers have little or no support for these. Bob
From: Daddy on 2 Mar 2010 09:33 Bob Levine wrote: > "Tony Harding" <tharding(a)newsguy.com> wrote in message > news:hmiaii0ut2(a)news4.newsguy.com... > >> Why, what's the advantage? Not going to maintain that Acrobat isn't >> bloated, but what improvement would someone like the OP or me see from >> making the switch? Besides, you can't beat thee price. :) > > There is none and there might well be some disadvantages. PDF has come a > long long way from just a way to send an electronic proof. > > It can now support transparency, form fields, movies, and various other > multimedia and interactive features. Many PDF readers have little or no > support for these. > > Bob I have been using Foxit Reader for more than a year and plan to continue using it. Never going back to Adobe's bloated software and bulimic support. All I ever do with PDFs is read them and, rarely, fill out a form. Foxit does that just fine - as would most other PDF readers, I suppose. Has anyone tried to remove PC Restore with DSRIRRemv2.exe command? Daddy
From: Cmplx80 on 2 Mar 2010 10:49 Tony Harding wrote: > On 02/28/10 04:57, olfart wrote: >> "Ben Myers"<ben_myers(a)charter.net> wrote in message >> news:hmcu5m$ca2$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >>> On 2/27/2010 10:42 PM, Daddy wrote: >>>> My Studio XPS 8100 is on order. >>>> >>>> I've put together what I think is an essentially complete list of all >>>> the software that's shipping with this PC...and I want none of it. (See >>>> the list below.) Nor do I want Dell's factory restore partition (known >>>> as PC-Restore) or its diagnostic partition. >>>> >>>> Bottom line: I'd like to erase the hard disk and reinstall Windows 7 >>>> only. (I'm eating crow here, since in the past I used to make fun of >>>> people who did this. Such is life.) >>>> >>>> Here's where I need your advice: >>>> >>>> 1- Should I wait until after the 21-day return period to do this? In >>>> the >>>> unlikely event that I have to return this computer due to a genuine >>>> hardware problem, I don't want Dell to give me a hard time (and >>>> possibly >>>> a re-stocking charge) because I wiped and reinstalled. >>>> >>>> 2- After the 21 days, if I should have a problem covered by the >>>> warranty, am I going to have to restore the computer to the factory >>>> image before Dell will even speak to me; or will I get some other kind >>>> of grief from Dell for wiping and reinstalling? >>>> >>>> Thanks for your advice. >>>> >>>> Daddy >>>> >>>> Here's what I think is a complete list of what's coming on my PC: >>>> Adobe Reader 9 >>>> CyberLink Power DVD (stripped-down OEM version) >>>> DellConnect (re-branded GoToAssist) >>>> Dell DataSafe (online backup) >>>> Dell Dock by Stardock (a floating toolbar) >>>> Dell Owners's Manual >>>> Dell Security Center by McAfee >>>> Dell Support Center >>>> Dell Welcome (a nag screen asking you to register your computer) >>>> Microsoft Works >>>> Roxio Easy CD and DVD (stripped down OEM version) >>>> Windows Live Search >>> >>> Of the items in the list, the only ones I would want is Adobe Reader 9. >>> Personally, I have no need for anything else on the list. CDBurnerXP >>> and >>> Media Player Classic Home Cinema are superior to the corresponding >>> cheesy >>> OEM software, and they are free... Ben Myers >> >> Might want to use Foxit Reader instead of the bloated Adobe reader > > Why, what's the advantage? Not going to maintain that Acrobat isn't > bloated, but what improvement would someone like the OP or me see from > making the switch? Besides, you can't beat thee price. :) > > One advantage of Foxit is that it has a document search function that is actually usable. Somewhere around ver 8.0 or so, Adobe managed to completely screw up the doc search function by opening the search in a floating window that stupidly collapses to the task bar when losing focus. This is second on the list of All Things Adobe and Idiotic only to their inability to provide smooth, unobtrusive updates like the rest of the zillion or so software companies. However, Adobe Reader generally has a more readable display. To Adobe's favor, Foxit still has that "washed out font" look, as well as having problems with some fonts by rendering excessive gaps between characters. Frank
From: Ben Myers on 2 Mar 2010 20:04 On 3/2/2010 10:49 AM, Cmplx80 wrote: > Tony Harding wrote: >> On 02/28/10 04:57, olfart wrote: >>> "Ben Myers"<ben_myers(a)charter.net> wrote in message >>> news:hmcu5m$ca2$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >>>> On 2/27/2010 10:42 PM, Daddy wrote: >>>>> My Studio XPS 8100 is on order. >>>>> >>>>> I've put together what I think is an essentially complete list of all >>>>> the software that's shipping with this PC...and I want none of it. >>>>> (See >>>>> the list below.) Nor do I want Dell's factory restore partition (known >>>>> as PC-Restore) or its diagnostic partition. >>>>> >>>>> Bottom line: I'd like to erase the hard disk and reinstall Windows 7 >>>>> only. (I'm eating crow here, since in the past I used to make fun of >>>>> people who did this. Such is life.) >>>>> >>>>> Here's where I need your advice: >>>>> >>>>> 1- Should I wait until after the 21-day return period to do this? >>>>> In the >>>>> unlikely event that I have to return this computer due to a genuine >>>>> hardware problem, I don't want Dell to give me a hard time (and >>>>> possibly >>>>> a re-stocking charge) because I wiped and reinstalled. >>>>> >>>>> 2- After the 21 days, if I should have a problem covered by the >>>>> warranty, am I going to have to restore the computer to the factory >>>>> image before Dell will even speak to me; or will I get some other kind >>>>> of grief from Dell for wiping and reinstalling? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for your advice. >>>>> >>>>> Daddy >>>>> >>>>> Here's what I think is a complete list of what's coming on my PC: >>>>> Adobe Reader 9 >>>>> CyberLink Power DVD (stripped-down OEM version) >>>>> DellConnect (re-branded GoToAssist) >>>>> Dell DataSafe (online backup) >>>>> Dell Dock by Stardock (a floating toolbar) >>>>> Dell Owners's Manual >>>>> Dell Security Center by McAfee >>>>> Dell Support Center >>>>> Dell Welcome (a nag screen asking you to register your computer) >>>>> Microsoft Works >>>>> Roxio Easy CD and DVD (stripped down OEM version) >>>>> Windows Live Search >>>> >>>> Of the items in the list, the only ones I would want is Adobe Reader 9. >>>> Personally, I have no need for anything else on the list. CDBurnerXP >>>> and >>>> Media Player Classic Home Cinema are superior to the corresponding >>>> cheesy >>>> OEM software, and they are free... Ben Myers >>> >>> Might want to use Foxit Reader instead of the bloated Adobe reader >> >> Why, what's the advantage? Not going to maintain that Acrobat isn't >> bloated, but what improvement would someone like the OP or me see from >> making the switch? Besides, you can't beat thee price. :) >> >> > One advantage of Foxit is that it has a document search function that is > actually usable. Somewhere around ver 8.0 or so, Adobe managed to > completely screw up the doc search function by opening the search in a > floating window that stupidly collapses to the task bar when losing > focus. This is second on the list of All Things Adobe and Idiotic only > to their inability to provide smooth, unobtrusive updates like the rest > of the zillion or so software companies. However, Adobe Reader generally > has a more readable display. To Adobe's favor, Foxit still has that > "washed out font" look, as well as having problems with some fonts by > rendering excessive gaps between characters. > > Frank > > > Hmm. I've been using Acrobat Reader 9.0 up thru 9.3, and I have never seen "the search in a floating window". Instead, search is right up there at the top and it stays there. I agree that Adobe's DLM Download Manager is a useless piece of manure. I wonder if it does any spying around your system while doing its magic? ... Ben Myers
From: Cmplx80 on 2 Mar 2010 20:30
Ben Myers wrote: > On 3/2/2010 10:49 AM, Cmplx80 wrote: >> Tony Harding wrote: >>> On 02/28/10 04:57, olfart wrote: >>>> "Ben Myers"<ben_myers(a)charter.net> wrote in message >>>> news:hmcu5m$ca2$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >>>>> On 2/27/2010 10:42 PM, Daddy wrote: >>>>>> My Studio XPS 8100 is on order. >>>>>> >>>>>> I've put together what I think is an essentially complete list of all >>>>>> the software that's shipping with this PC...and I want none of it. >>>>>> (See >>>>>> the list below.) Nor do I want Dell's factory restore partition >>>>>> (known >>>>>> as PC-Restore) or its diagnostic partition. >>>>>> >>>>>> Bottom line: I'd like to erase the hard disk and reinstall Windows 7 >>>>>> only. (I'm eating crow here, since in the past I used to make fun of >>>>>> people who did this. Such is life.) >>>>>> >>>>>> Here's where I need your advice: >>>>>> >>>>>> 1- Should I wait until after the 21-day return period to do this? >>>>>> In the >>>>>> unlikely event that I have to return this computer due to a genuine >>>>>> hardware problem, I don't want Dell to give me a hard time (and >>>>>> possibly >>>>>> a re-stocking charge) because I wiped and reinstalled. >>>>>> >>>>>> 2- After the 21 days, if I should have a problem covered by the >>>>>> warranty, am I going to have to restore the computer to the factory >>>>>> image before Dell will even speak to me; or will I get some other >>>>>> kind >>>>>> of grief from Dell for wiping and reinstalling? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for your advice. >>>>>> >>>>>> Daddy >>>>>> >>>>>> Here's what I think is a complete list of what's coming on my PC: >>>>>> Adobe Reader 9 >>>>>> CyberLink Power DVD (stripped-down OEM version) >>>>>> DellConnect (re-branded GoToAssist) >>>>>> Dell DataSafe (online backup) >>>>>> Dell Dock by Stardock (a floating toolbar) >>>>>> Dell Owners's Manual >>>>>> Dell Security Center by McAfee >>>>>> Dell Support Center >>>>>> Dell Welcome (a nag screen asking you to register your computer) >>>>>> Microsoft Works >>>>>> Roxio Easy CD and DVD (stripped down OEM version) >>>>>> Windows Live Search >>>>> >>>>> Of the items in the list, the only ones I would want is Adobe >>>>> Reader 9. >>>>> Personally, I have no need for anything else on the list. CDBurnerXP >>>>> and >>>>> Media Player Classic Home Cinema are superior to the corresponding >>>>> cheesy >>>>> OEM software, and they are free... Ben Myers >>>> >>>> Might want to use Foxit Reader instead of the bloated Adobe reader >>> >>> Why, what's the advantage? Not going to maintain that Acrobat isn't >>> bloated, but what improvement would someone like the OP or me see from >>> making the switch? Besides, you can't beat thee price. :) >>> >>> >> One advantage of Foxit is that it has a document search function that is >> actually usable. Somewhere around ver 8.0 or so, Adobe managed to >> completely screw up the doc search function by opening the search in a >> floating window that stupidly collapses to the task bar when losing >> focus. This is second on the list of All Things Adobe and Idiotic only >> to their inability to provide smooth, unobtrusive updates like the rest >> of the zillion or so software companies. However, Adobe Reader generally >> has a more readable display. To Adobe's favor, Foxit still has that >> "washed out font" look, as well as having problems with some fonts by >> rendering excessive gaps between characters. >> >> Frank >> >> >> > Hmm. I've been using Acrobat Reader 9.0 up thru 9.3, and I have never > seen "the search in a floating window". Instead, search is right up > there at the top and it stays there. > > I agree that Adobe's DLM Download Manager is a useless piece of manure. > I wonder if it does any spying around your system while doing its > magic? ... Ben Myers The search problem was a popular hate topic for some time on the Adobe forums. You're probably talking about the local document search, which is the simple textbox at the top of the window. The multi-document search (the "binoculars" icon) is the goofy one. Adobe lives to update. The "AdobeARM.exe" updater is forever vigilant in its never-ending struggle to protect itself from whatever. Frank |