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From: Christoph Hellwig on 22 Jun 2010 02:50 What all this fails to explain is that this actually is useful for? Your series adds lots of crappy code, entiely stupid interactions with a handfull filesystems, but no actual users. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo(a)vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
From: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk on 6 Jul 2010 17:00 On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 04:18:09PM -0700, Dan Magenheimer wrote: > [PATCH V3 0/8] Cleancache: overview Dan, Two comments: - Mention where one can get the implementor of the cleancache API. Either a link to where the patches reside or a git branch. If you need pointers on branch names: http://lkml.org/lkml/2010/6/7/269 - Point out the presentation you did on this. It has an excellent overview of how this API works, and most importantly: a) images and b). performance numbers. Otherwise, please consider all of these patches to have Reviewed-by: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk(a)oracle.com> tag. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo(a)vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
From: Nitin Gupta on 23 Jul 2010 03:40 On 06/22/2010 04:48 AM, Dan Magenheimer wrote: > [PATCH V3 0/8] Cleancache: overview > <snip> > > Documentation/ABI/testing/sysfs-kernel-mm-cleancache | 11 + > Documentation/vm/cleancache.txt | 194 +++++++++++++++++++ > fs/btrfs/extent_io.c | 9 > fs/btrfs/super.c | 2 > fs/buffer.c | 5 > fs/ext3/super.c | 2 > fs/ext4/super.c | 2 > fs/mpage.c | 7 > fs/ocfs2/super.c | 3 > fs/super.c | 7 > include/linux/cleancache.h | 88 ++++++++ > include/linux/fs.h | 5 > mm/Kconfig | 22 ++ > mm/Makefile | 1 > mm/cleancache.c | 169 ++++++++++++++++ > mm/filemap.c | 11 + > mm/truncate.c | 10 > 17 files changed, 548 insertions(+) > > (following is a copy of Documentation/vm/cleancache.txt) > > MOTIVATION > > Cleancache can be thought of as a page-granularity victim cache for clean > pages that the kernel's pageframe replacement algorithm (PFRA) would like > to keep around, but can't since there isn't enough memory. So when the > PFRA "evicts" a page, it first attempts to put it into a synchronous > concurrency-safe page-oriented "pseudo-RAM" device (such as Xen's Transcendent > Memory, aka "tmem", or in-kernel compressed memory, aka "zmem", or other > RAM-like devices) which is not directly accessible or addressable by the > kernel and is of unknown and possibly time-varying size. And when a > cleancache-enabled filesystem wishes to access a page in a file on disk, > it first checks cleancache to see if it already contains it; if it does, > the page is copied into the kernel and a disk access is avoided. > Since zcache is now one of its use cases, I think the major objection that remains against cleancache is its intrusiveness -- in particular, need to change individual filesystems (even though one liners). Changes below should help avoid these per-fs changes and make it more self contained. I haven't tested these changes myself, so there might be missed cases or other mysterious problems: 1. Cleancache requires filesystem specific changes primarily to make a call to cleancache init and store (per-fs instance) pool_id. I think we can get rid of these by directly passing 'struct super_block' pointer which is also sufficient to identify FS instance a page belongs to. This should then be used as a 'handle' by cleancache_ops provider to find corresponding memory pool or create a new pool when a new handle is encountered. This leaves out case of ocfs2 for which cleancache needs 'uuid' to decide if a shared pool should be created. IMHO, this case (and cleancache.init_shared_fs) should be removed from cleancache_ops since it is applicable only for Xen's cleancache_ops provider. 2. I think change in btrfs can be avoided by moving cleancache_get_page() from do_mpage_reapage() to filemap_fault() and this should work for all filesystems. See: handle_pte_fault() -> do_(non)linear_fault() -> __do_fault() -> vma->vm_ops->fault() which is defined as filemap_fault() for all filesystems. If some future filesystem uses its own custom function (why?) then it will have to arrange for call to cleancache_get_page(), if it wants this feature. With above changes, cleancache will be fairly self-contained: - cleancache_put_page() when page is removed from page-cache - cleacacache_get_page() when PF occurs (and after page-cache is searched) - cleancache_flush_*() on truncate_*() Thanks, Nitin -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo(a)vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
From: Minchan Kim on 23 Jul 2010 04:20 On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 4:36 PM, Nitin Gupta <ngupta(a)vflare.org> wrote: > > 2. I think change in btrfs can be avoided by moving cleancache_get_page() > from do_mpage_reapage() to filemap_fault() and this should work for all > filesystems. See: > > handle_pte_fault() -> do_(non)linear_fault() -> __do_fault() > � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � �-> vma->vm_ops->fault() > > which is defined as filemap_fault() for all filesystems. If some future > filesystem uses its own custom function (why?) then it will have to arrange for > call to cleancache_get_page(), if it wants this feature. filemap fault works only in case of file-backed page which is mapped but don't work not-mapped cache page. So we could miss cache page by read system call if we move it into filemap_fault. -- Kind regards, Minchan Kim -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo(a)vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
From: Christoph Hellwig on 23 Jul 2010 10:10
On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 06:58:03AM -0700, Dan Magenheimer wrote: > CHRISTOPH AND ANDREW, if you disagree and your concerns have > not been resolved, please speak up. Anything that need modification of a normal non-shared fs is utterly broken and you'll get a clear NAK, so the propsal before is a good one. There's a couple more issues like the still weird prototypes, e.g. and i_ino might not be enoug to uniquely identify an inode on serveral filesystems that use 64-bit inode inode numbers on 32-bit systems. Also making the ops vector global is just a bad idea. There is nothing making this sort of caching inherently global. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo(a)vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ |