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From: Don on 3 Jul 2010 08:38 I thought I'd post this, as it is an example of a "worst-case scenario" situation. A few months ago I acquired a rather high-end Mitsubishi VHS VCR from eBay for not much money. The seller said the VCR was in excellent condition, and very clean. I'm sure everyone has heard this before... LOL. To make a long story short, when I received the VCR it was an absolute disaster from a aesthetic and cleanliness point-of-view. Obviously, the original owner was a heavy smoker, and the VCR absolutely reeked of smoke, and nicotine stains were the worst I've ever seen inside and out the unit. To put it mildly, it was horrible, and I almost felt I needed to put on rubber gloves just to touch it! Strangely, it worked fine, but otherwise it was a real mess. So, I decided to disassemble it and clean it manually. It didn't take long to realize that this was hopeless. Thus, I did the unthinkable,especially for a VCR. Once disassembled, I put each board and the chassis/transport into the dishwasher taking care to cover and protect the video head drum. No dish washing detergent, just the water. After a full wash, rinse, and dry cycle, I removed it, and gently dried it with compressed air, and then placed it into a 100 degree oven for a short time. After 3 months, the VCR is still working fine, and it looks (and smells) like new. Realistically, I had nothing to lose by trying this worst-case cleaning method, but it worked. It sounds like this would be an absolute disaster for a VCR, and I must admit, I am surprised that it was successful. I have used this method for cleaning other types of electronics in the past, but not a VCR.
From: N_Cook on 3 Jul 2010 09:09 Don <w9cw(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:f2e92c69-535a-4a2b-8abe-0e116d467fe1(a)z10g2000yqb.googlegroups.com... > I thought I'd post this, as it is an example of a "worst-case > scenario" situation. A few months ago I acquired a rather high-end > Mitsubishi VHS VCR from eBay for not much money. The seller said the > VCR was in excellent condition, and very clean. I'm sure everyone has > heard this before... LOL. To make a long story short, when I received > the VCR it was an absolute disaster from a aesthetic and cleanliness > point-of-view. Obviously, the original owner was a heavy smoker, and > the VCR absolutely reeked of smoke, and nicotine stains were the worst > I've ever seen inside and out the unit. To put it mildly, it was > horrible, and I almost felt I needed to put on rubber gloves just to > touch it! > > Strangely, it worked fine, but otherwise it was a real mess. So, I > decided to disassemble it and clean it manually. It didn't take long > to realize that this was hopeless. Thus, I did the > unthinkable,especially for a VCR. Once disassembled, I put each board > and the chassis/transport into the dishwasher taking care to cover and > protect the video head drum. No dish washing detergent, just the > water. After a full wash, rinse, and dry cycle, I removed it, and > gently dried it with compressed air, and then placed it into a 100 > degree oven for a short time. > > After 3 months, the VCR is still working fine, and it looks (and > smells) like new. Realistically, I had nothing to lose by trying this > worst-case cleaning method, but it worked. It sounds like this would > be an absolute disaster for a VCR, and I must admit, I am surprised > that it was successful. > > I have used this method for cleaning other types of electronics in the > past, but not a VCR. What is the largest item w x h x d you can put , entire, into a domestic dishwasher ?is dismantling racks possible in some models.? With tobacco staining I just use oven cleaner (after test patches) on the outside and drops of fragrent oil on whatever gets warm on the inside. Last weeks treat for me was an amp a dog had pissed in the back of - frangipan oil went in that one after localised cleaning.
From: Bob Villa on 3 Jul 2010 09:28 On Jul 3, 7:38 am, Don <w...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > I thought I'd post this, as it is an example of a "worst-case > scenario" situation. A few months ago I acquired a rather high-end > Mitsubishi VHS VCR from eBay for not much money. The seller said the > VCR was in excellent condition, and very clean. I'm sure everyone has > heard this before... LOL. To make a long story short, when I received > the VCR it was an absolute disaster from a aesthetic and cleanliness > point-of-view. Obviously, the original owner was a heavy smoker, and > the VCR absolutely reeked of smoke, and nicotine stains were the worst > I've ever seen inside and out the unit. To put it mildly, it was > horrible, and I almost felt I needed to put on rubber gloves just to > touch it! > > Strangely, it worked fine, but otherwise it was a real mess. So, I > decided to disassemble it and clean it manually. It didn't take long > to realize that this was hopeless. Thus, I did the > unthinkable,especially for a VCR. Once disassembled, I put each board > and the chassis/transport into the dishwasher taking care to cover and > protect the video head drum. No dish washing detergent, just the > water. After a full wash, rinse, and dry cycle, I removed it, and > gently dried it with compressed air, and then placed it into a 100 > degree oven for a short time. > > After 3 months, the VCR is still working fine, and it looks (and > smells) like new. Realistically, I had nothing to lose by trying this > worst-case cleaning method, but it worked. It sounds like this would > be an absolute disaster for a VCR, and I must admit, I am surprised > that it was successful. > > I have used this method for cleaning other types of electronics in the > past, but not a VCR. 30 years ago, when I worked with circuit boards for cash registers...we would steam clean and blow off board that had spillage,smoking tars, insect or rodent nests on them. bob
From: William Sommerwerck on 3 Jul 2010 09:40 This had no effect on moving parts that weren't covered during the wash? Their lubrication wasn't affected?
From: stratus46 on 3 Jul 2010 10:13 On Jul 3, 5:38 am, Don <w...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > I thought I'd post this, as it is an example of a "worst-case > scenario" situation. A few months ago I acquired a rather high-end > Mitsubishi VHS VCR from eBay for not much money. The seller said the > VCR was in excellent condition, and very clean. I'm sure everyone has > heard this before... LOL. To make a long story short, when I received > the VCR it was an absolute disaster from a aesthetic and cleanliness > point-of-view. Obviously, the original owner was a heavy smoker, and > the VCR absolutely reeked of smoke, and nicotine stains were the worst > I've ever seen inside and out the unit. To put it mildly, it was > horrible, and I almost felt I needed to put on rubber gloves just to > touch it! > > Strangely, it worked fine, but otherwise it was a real mess. So, I > decided to disassemble it and clean it manually. It didn't take long > to realize that this was hopeless. Thus, I did the > unthinkable,especially for a VCR. Once disassembled, I put each board > and the chassis/transport into the dishwasher taking care to cover and > protect the video head drum. No dish washing detergent, just the > water. After a full wash, rinse, and dry cycle, I removed it, and > gently dried it with compressed air, and then placed it into a 100 > degree oven for a short time. > > After 3 months, the VCR is still working fine, and it looks (and > smells) like new. Realistically, I had nothing to lose by trying this > worst-case cleaning method, but it worked. It sounds like this would > be an absolute disaster for a VCR, and I must admit, I am surprised > that it was successful. > > I have used this method for cleaning other types of electronics in the > past, but not a VCR. What's unthinkable about a dishwasher for PC boards? We put all 40 boards of a 1978 Ampex AVR-3 into the dishwasher in 2006 and they worked fine. We did have the bonus of a commercial food dehydrator so we cooked them at 105° F for 17 hours. Oven baking is OK so long as you dnon't overheat them. Electric is preferred over gas as a combustion byproduct is water - what you're trying to get rid of. The transport however.... G²
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