"Code must be Chunkable"
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From: Michel Demazure on 17 Feb 2010 08:48 Thomas Sawyer wrote: > No matter how hard a new paradigms is, it must still be taught. Dear All, Indeed ! Please do not end this very interesting discussion. Some people may be eagerly following it without participating (at least I am). -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
From: Michal Suchanek on 17 Feb 2010 10:48 On 13 February 2010 19:07, David Masover <ninja(a)slaphack.com> wrote: > > I doubt it. I think what's much more useful is that ECMAScript has prototypal > inheritance. If you're talking about the fact that I can "steal" a method from > one class and apply it to another, there is only one thing stopping this in > Ruby, and it's some anal-retentive type-safety thing probably leftover from > Java or C++ -- the fact that you can't bind an UnboundMethod to anything > that's not either a direct class or a subclass of the class that UnboundMethod > was originally defined on. > Obviously, if you unbind a method from Array which is implemented in C you cannot rebind it to something else. This restrictions is probably less meaningful for pure ruby methods but allowing some methods to be rebound freely and restrict others does not sound very nice either. Thanks Michal
From: Brian Candler on 17 Feb 2010 11:10 > Please do not end this very interesting discussion. Some people may be > eagerly following it without participating (at least I am). I've been taking apart one of the Smalltalk examples in an attempt to understand it and perhaps port bits of it to Ruby. Trygve himself has been gracious in helping me through this process. You can follow the discussion here: http://groups.google.com/group/object-composition/browse_thread/thread/854df3a328e1c263 -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
From: James Coplien on 17 Feb 2010 11:47 Thomas Sawyer wrote: > On Feb 16, 11:41�am, James Coplien <jcopl...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> hard, and it will take a while to unlearn old ways and to learn new. > No matter how hard anew paradigms is, it must still be taught. No. I was a professional educator for several years. One thing you find in the theories of education is that though many things can be learned, only some of them can be taught — in the normal Western application of the word "teaching." The normal model of education, as described by educators like Piaget, is to move from the known to the unknown. The essence of a paradigm shift, according to Kuhn, is that the new paradigm is irreconcilable with the old. I think that's what we're faced with here. As such, I think the best way to learn is through practice. Furthermore, I think it is better to think of DCI as a community effort to explore a new space, working with each other, than to have the Master "instruct" the newbies. It is true that Trygve and I have about ten years of thought about this, and we're happy to relate our experiences. That's why I'm here — to give. That's why Trygve has published so many reports and why we published a joint report on Artima. That's why I have spent the past three years writing a book on this (and related) topics. Learning this will take hard work: don't expect to be spoon-fed. -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
From: Michel Demazure on 17 Feb 2010 11:50
Brian Candler wrote: You can follow the > discussion here: > > http://groups.google.com/group/object-composition/browse_thread/thread/854df3a328e1c263 We'll keep both eyes open ! -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. |