From: wbbrdr on
On Apr 17, 5:40 am, Tom Roberts <tjroberts...(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> wbb...(a)gmail.com wrote:
> > On Apr 15, 1:20 pm, Tom Roberts <tjroberts...(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >> Surfer wrote:
> >>> The caption under Fig 3. says:
> >>> "The assumed-linear systematic drift from the data of Fig. 1.
> >>> The lines are between successive Marker 1 values and the points are
> >>> Marker 9. These markers are 180 degrees apart, so any real signal has
> >>> the same value for every corner and every point - the variations are
> >>> purely an instrumentation effect.
> >>> That statement is FALSE, because any real FLUCTUATING signal would
> >>> have different values at Marker 1 and Marker 9.
> >> This is using MILLER's model,
>
> > Miller's model is wrong. That means your analysis is based on a false
> > premise.
>
> Yes, of course. That's why I included a modern analysis in my paper.
>
> But this DOES show that any reference to Miller's original conclusions
> is likewise wrong. that of course includes Cahill's references to it.
>
> Tom Roberts

From: wbbrdr on
On Apr 17, 5:40 am, Tom Roberts <tjroberts...(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> wbb...(a)gmail.com wrote:
> > On Apr 15, 1:20 pm, Tom Roberts <tjroberts...(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >> Surfer wrote:
> >>> The caption under Fig 3. says:
> >>> "The assumed-linear systematic drift from the data of Fig. 1.
> >>> The lines are between successive Marker 1 values and the points are
> >>> Marker 9. These markers are 180 degrees apart, so any real signal has
> >>> the same value for every corner and every point - the variations are
> >>> purely an instrumentation effect.
> >>> That statement is FALSE, because any real FLUCTUATING signal would
> >>> have different values at Marker 1 and Marker 9.
> >> This is using MILLER's model,
>
> > Miller's model is wrong. That means your analysis is based on a false
> > premise.
>
> Yes, of course. That's why I included a modern analysis in my paper.
>
It is still based on a false premise.
>
> But this DOES show that any reference to Miller's original conclusions
> is likewise wrong.
>
If its based on a false premise it doesn't show anything at all.



From: Dono on
On Apr 15, 7:14 pm, wbb...(a)gmail.com wrote:
> On Apr 15, 1:20 pm, Tom Roberts <tjroberts...(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:> Surfer wrote:
> > > The caption under Fig 3. says:
> > > "The assumed-linear systematic drift from the data of Fig. 1.
> > > The lines are between successive Marker 1 values and the points are
> > > Marker 9. These markers are 180 degrees apart, so any real signal has
> > > the same value for every corner and every point - the variations are
> > > purely an instrumentation effect.
>
> > > That statement is FALSE, because any real FLUCTUATING signal would
> > > have different values at Marker 1 and Marker 9.
>
> > This is using MILLER's model,
>
> Miller's model is wrong. That means your analysis is based on a false
> premise.



Surfer,

Why did you change your posting name? :-)
From: Dono on
On Apr 16, 3:05 pm, wbb...(a)gmail.com wrote:


Surfer,

Why did you change your posting name? :-)
Tom is easier to fool on these things :-)

From: Dono on
On Apr 16, 2:56 pm, wbb...(a)gmail.com wrote:


Surfer,

Why did you change your posting name?
Hold it, no need to answer that