From: Jamie Kahn Genet on
Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote:

> In article <1jhmr1c.gqk4xizs2obdN%jamiekg(a)wizardling.geek.nz>,
> jamiekg(a)wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) wrote:
>
> > OSX 10.5.8, been happening for a couple years. No, zero machines with
> > the same name are on my network. Yup - I've double and triple and
> > quadruple checked this. In Network settings->WINS it always says "NAME
> > is currently in use" no matter what I change it to. I change it to...
> > say 'Dragon', apply - it still says it's in use. I change the computer
> > name in Sharing prefs and later it's Dragon_(2) again.
> >
> > However I'd REALLY like it to accept and KEEP 'Crystalis' as my
> > computer's name. Not Crystalis_(2). Not one of the other test names
> > which all eventually become NAME_(2) anyway.
> >
> > I've put up with it for ages as it's a minor problem - I can just use IP
> > addresses to connect, not hostnames that OSX keeps appending numbers to
> > and thus wrecking (so braindead...). But for reasons I won't bore you
> > with it's becoming more of a hassle. Any advice?
> >
> > TIA,
> > Jamie Kahn Genet
>
> Have you tried doing some investigative work with the various smb
> command-line tools in Mac OS X? For instance, have you tried this?:
>
> findsmb

Done after changing the name yet again, but before it reverts to
Crystalis_(2) as it always does:

Crystalis:~ Jamie_Standard$ findsmb

*=DMB
+=LMB
IP ADDR NETBIOS NAME WORKGROUP/OS/VERSION
---------------------------------------------------------------------
192.168.1.2 CRYSTALIS +[WORKGROUP] [Unix] [Samba 3.0.25b-apple]
Crystalis:~ Jamie_Standard$

> Or you might try setting the name to something else, and then doing a:
>
> smbtool lookup Crystalis

I'm afraid I get onlly the following result:

-bash: smbtool: command not found

A utility I've not got installed? Are you sure it's part of 10.5's
standard install?

TIA JR :-)

- Jamie.
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From: Jamie Kahn Genet on
Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> jamiekg(a)wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) writes:
>
> > OSX 10.5.8, been happening for a couple years. No, zero machines with
> > the same name are on my network. Yup - I've double and triple and
> > quadruple checked this. In Network settings->WINS it always says "NAME
> > is currently in use" no matter what I change it to. I change it to...
> > say 'Dragon', apply - it still says it's in use. I change the computer
> > name in Sharing prefs and later it's Dragon_(2) again.
> >
> > However I'd REALLY like it to accept and KEEP 'Crystalis' as my
> > computer's name. Not Crystalis_(2). Not one of the other test names
> > which all eventually become NAME_(2) anyway.
> >
> > I've put up with it for ages as it's a minor problem - I can just use IP
> > addresses to connect, not hostnames that OSX keeps appending numbers to
> > and thus wrecking (so braindead...). But for reasons I won't bore you
> > with it's becoming more of a hassle. Any advice?
>
> Have you tried the usual way of setting your computer name:
>
> System Preferences -> Sharing -> Computer name:

Yes, to no avail. It is later changed to NAME_(2) again.
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From: Jolly Roger on
In article <1jhn2lg.14qsfsw1ilq7grN%jamiekg(a)wizardling.geek.nz>,
jamiekg(a)wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) wrote:

> Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote:
>
> > In article <1jhmr1c.gqk4xizs2obdN%jamiekg(a)wizardling.geek.nz>,
> > jamiekg(a)wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) wrote:
> >
> > > OSX 10.5.8, been happening for a couple years. No, zero machines with
> > > the same name are on my network. Yup - I've double and triple and
> > > quadruple checked this. In Network settings->WINS it always says "NAME
> > > is currently in use" no matter what I change it to. I change it to...
> > > say 'Dragon', apply - it still says it's in use. I change the computer
> > > name in Sharing prefs and later it's Dragon_(2) again.
> > >
> > > However I'd REALLY like it to accept and KEEP 'Crystalis' as my
> > > computer's name. Not Crystalis_(2). Not one of the other test names
> > > which all eventually become NAME_(2) anyway.
> > >
> > > I've put up with it for ages as it's a minor problem - I can just use IP
> > > addresses to connect, not hostnames that OSX keeps appending numbers to
> > > and thus wrecking (so braindead...). But for reasons I won't bore you
> > > with it's becoming more of a hassle. Any advice?
> > >
> > > TIA,
> > > Jamie Kahn Genet
> >
> > Have you tried doing some investigative work with the various smb
> > command-line tools in Mac OS X? For instance, have you tried this?:
> >
> > findsmb
>
> Done after changing the name yet again, but before it reverts to
> Crystalis_(2) as it always does:
>
> Crystalis:~ Jamie_Standard$ findsmb
>
> *=DMB
> +=LMB
> IP ADDR NETBIOS NAME WORKGROUP/OS/VERSION
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> 192.168.1.2 CRYSTALIS +[WORKGROUP] [Unix] [Samba 3.0.25b-apple]

And I take it 192.168.1.2 is the IP address of the same machine? That's
strange.

> > Or you might try setting the name to something else, and then doing a:
> >
> > smbtool lookup Crystalis
>
> I'm afraid I get onlly the following result:
>
> -bash: smbtool: command not found
>
> A utility I've not got installed? Are you sure it's part of 10.5's
> standard install?
>
> TIA JR :-)
>
> - Jamie.

Oops. I meant smbutil, which is at /usr/bin/smbutil in 10.6. And for
some reason I haven't gotten it to work correctly here - it always times
out.

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From: Jolly Roger on
In article <1jhn2fg.5rzkaw8cwea0N%jamiekg(a)wizardling.geek.nz>,
jamiekg(a)wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) wrote:

> Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > jamiekg(a)wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) writes:
> >
> > > OSX 10.5.8, been happening for a couple years. No, zero machines with
> > > the same name are on my network. Yup - I've double and triple and
> > > quadruple checked this. In Network settings->WINS it always says "NAME
> > > is currently in use" no matter what I change it to. I change it to...
> > > say 'Dragon', apply - it still says it's in use. I change the computer
> > > name in Sharing prefs and later it's Dragon_(2) again.
> > >
> > > However I'd REALLY like it to accept and KEEP 'Crystalis' as my
> > > computer's name. Not Crystalis_(2). Not one of the other test names
> > > which all eventually become NAME_(2) anyway.
> > >
> > > I've put up with it for ages as it's a minor problem - I can just use IP
> > > addresses to connect, not hostnames that OSX keeps appending numbers to
> > > and thus wrecking (so braindead...). But for reasons I won't bore you
> > > with it's becoming more of a hassle. Any advice?
> >
> > Have you tried the usual way of setting your computer name:
> >
> > System Preferences -> Sharing -> Computer name:
>
> Yes, to no avail. It is later changed to NAME_(2) again.

Are you running more than one network interface on that Mac?

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From: Jamie Kahn Genet on
Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote:

> In article <1jhn2fg.5rzkaw8cwea0N%jamiekg(a)wizardling.geek.nz>,
> jamiekg(a)wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) wrote:
>
> > Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > jamiekg(a)wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) writes:
> > >
> > > > OSX 10.5.8, been happening for a couple years. No, zero machines with
> > > > the same name are on my network. Yup - I've double and triple and
> > > > quadruple checked this. In Network settings->WINS it always says "NAME
> > > > is currently in use" no matter what I change it to. I change it to...
> > > > say 'Dragon', apply - it still says it's in use. I change the computer
> > > > name in Sharing prefs and later it's Dragon_(2) again.
> > > >
> > > > However I'd REALLY like it to accept and KEEP 'Crystalis' as my
> > > > computer's name. Not Crystalis_(2). Not one of the other test names
> > > > which all eventually become NAME_(2) anyway.
> > > >
> > > > I've put up with it for ages as it's a minor problem - I can just use IP
> > > > addresses to connect, not hostnames that OSX keeps appending numbers to
> > > > and thus wrecking (so braindead...). But for reasons I won't bore you
> > > > with it's becoming more of a hassle. Any advice?
> > >
> > > Have you tried the usual way of setting your computer name:
> > >
> > > System Preferences -> Sharing -> Computer name:
> >
> > Yes, to no avail. It is later changed to NAME_(2) again.
>
> Are you running more than one network interface on that Mac?

I have, but only one - Ethernet - is active.
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