From: Harold A Climer on 4 Apr 2007 14:58 Is there a way to convert units on the HP50 as we did on the 48GX without using the CONVERT(X,Y) command? Harold A Climer University of Tennessee at Chattanooga Dept of Physics,Geology,& Astronomy Room 309 Grote Hall 615 McCallie Ave Chattanooga TN 37403 Harold-Climer(a)utc.edu
From: Dave Boyd on 4 Apr 2007 16:03 Harold A Climer wrote: > Is there a way to convert units on the HP50 as we did > on the 48GX without using the CONVERT(X,Y) command? Err... the old HP48 Units menu is present as right-shift 6. Prof. Dr. Rautenberg's Unitman still works fine, too. Naturally, you need to have the soft-menu flag set (-117 SF). Is that what you meant? -- Dave Boyd "That's sucker talk." -- Raven, _This_Gun_For_Hire_, Universal, 1942
From: Harold A Climer on 4 Apr 2007 18:39 On Wed, 04 Apr 2007 16:03:12 -0400, Dave Boyd <boydda(a)comcast.net> wrote: >Harold A Climer wrote: >> Is there a way to convert units on the HP50 as we did >> on the 48GX without using the CONVERT(X,Y) command? > >Err... the old HP48 Units menu is present as right-shift 6. Prof. Dr. >Rautenberg's Unitman still works fine, too. Naturally, you need to have >the soft-menu flag set (-117 SF). Is that what you meant? Thanks. That is what I meant. It is amazing how things work "correctly" when flag 117 is on. I was wondering why the designers of the 50 thought it necessary to have to set this flag for the soft menus. I am really not an expert, but was this also true in the 48GX, 49G and 49G+ too, or is this new to the 50G. What, if any advantages does not having flag 117 set bring to the calculator? Harold A Climer University of Tennessee at Chattanooga Dept of Physics,Geology,& Astronomy Room 309 Grote Hall 615 McCallie Ave Chattanooga TN 37403 Harold-Climer(a)utc.edu
From: John H Meyers on 4 Apr 2007 22:27 On Wed, 04 Apr 2007 17:39:50 -0500, Harold A Climer wrote: > I was wondering why the designers of the 50 thought it necessary to > have to set flag -117 for the soft menus. I am really not an expert, > but was this also true in the 48GX, 49G and 49G+ too, or is this new > to the 50G. Started with the first 49G in 1999 (48GX rom R ended the "48" series in 1993). > What, if any, advantages > does not having flag 117 set bring to the calculator? Have you seen any HP48-style applications on a computer lately? Even my really old Sharp Wizard went for "computer-like" menus many years ago, just as even the HP48G began to move towards with its "choose" and "forms" interfaces; the HP49G then began to try to make *everything* become a "choose" menu -- which often failed, especially for the special shifted operations, the "little box in menu label" items, and the inability to use the stack first, *before* selecting a menu item. Even RPN mode was hidden by default; it's a wonder that the HP logo even remained, given that it was supposed to disguise itself as a TI calc, with only the money going to HP instead :) [r-] [OFF]
From: Savage on 18 Apr 2007 01:48
"John H Meyers" <jhmeyers(a)nomail.invalid> wrote in message news:op.tqag4buhnn735j(a)w2kjhm.ia.mum.edu... > On Wed, 04 Apr 2007 17:39:50 -0500, Harold A Climer wrote: > [snip] > the HP49G then began to try to make *everything* > become a "choose" menu -- which often failed, > especially for the special shifted operations, > the "little box in menu label" items, speaking of which... does anyone know how one can get information on how to program a custom menu with soft keys that display the little box when flag or setting is toggled ( like the soft keys in << 65 MENU >>)? Greg |