From: Rowland McDonnell on
Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote:

> Pd <peterd.news(a)gmail.invalid> wrote:
>
> > Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:
[snip]

> > > Last thing I heard, The Steve was still taking $1/year salary. Not many
> > > firms would pay a temporary stand-in at a rate of tens of millions of
> > > times the pay. Temps usually get less than their permanent cousins.
> >
> > Actually, quite the reverse. Temps make loads more than the permanent
> > workers they fill in for.

Not when I was a temp, they didn't. The firm paid more for your services
than they paid for the regulars; the temp got considerably less. The
temping agency takes its cut...

But of course Pd, you've gotta sneer at me, contradict anything I say.
It's just your way, I know.

[snip]

Rowland.

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From: Conor on
On 15/03/2010 18:35, Pd wrote:
>
> The rates I quoted were current. Firms can easily pay double what the
> temp gets, but I've never heard of temps getting less than the fulltime
> workers, and I've both been a temp and hired temps since 1982.

In haulage, it is quite common for temps to get less than employees.
Don't assume all sectors of agency work is the same as yours.

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From: Rowland McDonnell on
Conor <conor(a)gmx.co.uk> wrote:

> Pd wrote:
> >
> > The rates I quoted were current. Firms can easily pay double what the
> > temp gets, but I've never heard of temps getting less than the fulltime
> > workers, and I've both been a temp and hired temps since 1982.
>
> In haulage, it is quite common for temps to get less than employees.
> Don't assume all sectors of agency work is the same as yours.

If you're a highly skilled professional with particular professional
skills that are in particular demand (like almost any sort of clever
freelance techie type, for example), you'll get more per day working as
a temp than a full-time employee.

If you're any other sort of temp, you'll get less.

I thought this was common knowledge, wasn't it?

<shrug>

I first noticed it some time in the late 1980s.

I'm amazed, given that reality which I became aware of about a 1/4 of a
century ago, that Pd insists that all temps are treated equally well and
paid more than regular employees by all employers, which is an obviously
ridiculous idea.

But I've got used to him by now - whatever Rowland proposes, Pd opposes.
It's some sort of trollish reflex on his part and the reason I've got
the wossname killfiled.

Rowland.

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From: Steve Firth on
Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:

> Not when I was a temp, they didn't. The firm paid more for your services
> than they paid for the regulars; the temp got considerably less. The
> temping agency takes its cut...

Every temp I have worked with and every temp I have recruited to fill a
post got paid more than the permies.
From: Pd on
Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:

> If you're a highly skilled professional with particular professional
> skills that are in particular demand (like almost any sort of clever
> freelance techie type, for example), you'll get more per day working as
> a temp than a full-time employee.
>
> If you're any other sort of temp, you'll get less.
>
> I thought this was common knowledge, wasn't it?

Obviously not common knowledge to London temp agencies. They tend to pay
temps the equivalent of �24k p.a. for office work that salaried
employees get around �14k for.

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