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From: Jim on 6 Mar 2010 11:53 "James" <tvwatchr(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:02F600CB-5D00-4668-8D07-8493D2FB8EB3(a)microsoft.com... > How would I determine which one is which? > If a lower case l looks like and upper case I, and you don't want me to go > by the rest of the letters, how do I determine the letter in question? > > James > > > "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message > news:#KL$xdNvKHA.4220(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> From: "James" <tvwatchr(a)hotmail.com> >> >> | Since all the letters are lower case then I believe it is issas.exe >> | James >> >> You should not assume, you need to know because if it is ISASS.EXE (with >> an "I" not a "L") >> then you are most likely infected with malware ! >> >> >> -- >> Dave >> http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html >> Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp >> >> The name of the program on my system is all lowercase in both windows explorer and task manager. Any uppercase letters are a suspicious name. Surely you can tell the difference between lowercase i and lowercase l. And surely you can tell the difference between uppercase I and uppercase L. In fact, lowercase l only looks like uppercase I if you are in a hurry. Jim Jim
From: David H. Lipman on 6 Mar 2010 12:17 From: "Jim" <j.n(a)invalid.invalid> | The name of the program on my system is all lowercase in both windows | explorer and task manager. Any uppercase letters are a suspicious name. | Surely you can tell the difference between lowercase i and lowercase l. And | surely you can tell the difference between uppercase I and uppercase L. In | fact, lowercase l only looks like uppercase I if you are in a hurry. | Jim Uppercase and lowercase filenames are the same as the MS Windows OS' does not differentiate filenames by their case. LL.TXT = ll.txt = LL.txt = Ll.TxT, etc. This is unlike the 'Nix type operating systems where the file; LL.TXT <> ll.txt <> LL.txt <> Ll.TxT, etc. The reason a malware author chooses the name ISASS.EXE is for the very nature of what is happening in this thread -- confusion. Malware authors obfuscate their malicious intent by naming files close to the name of legitimate files such that they appear to be legitimate files by the use of a font that makes differentiating certain characters difficult. I <> l <> 1 -- Dave http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp
From: "FromTheRafters" erratic on 6 Mar 2010 19:34 "James" <tvwatchr(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:02F600CB-5D00-4668-8D07-8493D2FB8EB3(a)microsoft.com... > How would I determine which one is which? > If a lower case l looks like and upper case I, and you don't want me > to go by the rest of the letters, how do I determine the letter in > question? Copy/paste (the name) into notepad and then Iook at it in a different font.
From: James on 7 Mar 2010 21:03 Jim Yes I can tell the difference between lowercase i and lowercase l. And yes I can tell the difference between uppercase I and uppercase L. In your next line " In fact, lowercase l only looks like uppercase I if you are in a hurry." So I copied and pasted the two letters in question, here they are ( l , I ) How can you tell the difference between the two letters? They look exactly the same to me. James "Jim" <j.n(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in message news:OSNNL2UvKHA.4636(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > > "James" <tvwatchr(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:02F600CB-5D00-4668-8D07-8493D2FB8EB3(a)microsoft.com... >> How would I determine which one is which? >> If a lower case l looks like and upper case I, and you don't want me to >> go by the rest of the letters, how do I determine the letter in question? >> >> James >> >> >> "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message >> news:#KL$xdNvKHA.4220(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>> From: "James" <tvwatchr(a)hotmail.com> >>> >>> | Since all the letters are lower case then I believe it is issas.exe >>> | James >>> >>> You should not assume, you need to know because if it is ISASS.EXE (with >>> an "I" not a "L") >>> then you are most likely infected with malware ! >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Dave >>> http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html >>> Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp >>> >>> > The name of the program on my system is all lowercase in both windows > explorer and task manager. Any uppercase letters are a suspicious name. > > Surely you can tell the difference between lowercase i and lowercase l. > And surely you can tell the difference between uppercase I and uppercase > L. In fact, lowercase l only looks like uppercase I if you are in a > hurry. > > Jim > > Jim > >
From: "FromTheRafters" erratic on 7 Mar 2010 22:44
Use a different font. For instance, "View - text size - fixed" from the dropdown menu when viewing an article will give you a fixed width font (with serifs). "James" <tvwatchr(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:95FBACEE-371E-4D07-B0D4-05AD9D2B21CE(a)microsoft.com... > Jim > Yes I can tell the difference between lowercase i and lowercase l. > And yes I can tell the difference between uppercase I and uppercase L. > > In your next line " In fact, lowercase l only looks like uppercase I > if you are in a hurry." > So I copied and pasted the two letters in question, here they are ( l > , I ) > How can you tell the difference between the two letters? > They look exactly the same to me. > > James > > > > "Jim" <j.n(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in message > news:OSNNL2UvKHA.4636(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> >> "James" <tvwatchr(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >> news:02F600CB-5D00-4668-8D07-8493D2FB8EB3(a)microsoft.com... >>> How would I determine which one is which? >>> If a lower case l looks like and upper case I, and you don't want me >>> to go by the rest of the letters, how do I determine the letter in >>> question? >>> >>> James >>> >>> >>> "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message >>> news:#KL$xdNvKHA.4220(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>> From: "James" <tvwatchr(a)hotmail.com> >>>> >>>> | Since all the letters are lower case then I believe it is >>>> issas.exe >>>> | James >>>> >>>> You should not assume, you need to know because if it is ISASS.EXE >>>> (with an "I" not a "L") >>>> then you are most likely infected with malware ! >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Dave >>>> http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html >>>> Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp >>>> >>>> >> The name of the program on my system is all lowercase in both windows >> explorer and task manager. Any uppercase letters are a suspicious >> name. >> >> Surely you can tell the difference between lowercase i and lowercase >> l. And surely you can tell the difference between uppercase I and >> uppercase L. In fact, lowercase l only looks like uppercase I if you >> are in a hurry. >> >> Jim >> >> Jim >> >> |