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From: Dombo on 1 Mar 2010 14:05 Bruno Richard schreef: > On Feb 28, 5:16 pm, John <jdsot...(a)rochester.rr.com> wrote: >> I am looking for a low cost platform for home Cortex M3 development. >> My main mandatory requirements are: >> >> 1. Under $250 total cost. >> 2. C Demo code exists that will work out of the box. (I see some >> systems where many bugs need to be overcome to get a simple demo >> application to work. >> 3. Out of the box support for C.(Working C-Start / ctr0 that clear >> and initialises data are required by C, initialises interrupts, and >> calls main. >> 4. Uses Thumb2 instruction set. (I understand Cortex M3 uses this set >> and is easier to use than legacy ARM). >> 5. No tools code size limitations. (Some evaluation board kits come >> with code size limits either for build chain or debugger). >> 6. >= ADC inputs, 8 digital inputs, 8 digital outputs >> >> Optional Requirements: >> 1. C++ support out of the box. >> 2. Existing support for On-Board peripherals. >> 3. Out of the box support for RS232 printf. >> 4. Flash >= 128K >> 5. RAM >= 32 K (I want to use an RTOS. >> 4. HW debugger. >> >> I realize this is a really touch set of requirements to meet. >> >> I am an embedded developer who has focused mostly on embedded >> applications code (not much BSP). Does anyone have experience with >> the Olimex STM32-P103 or Olimex STM32-H103. How about OpenOCD and the >> Olimex debug hardware? >> >> John Sotack > > Look at the STM32 Primer2 from Raisonance : 59 euros with programmer > and LCD included. The only price I can find on the Raisonance website is for the STM32 Primer2 Pro: �129,- .
From: John on 3 Mar 2010 07:49 Thank you for your input. I order a Primer2. I looks like it has a 20 pin connector that exports configurable IO pins. Mores specifically it appears certain pins can be configured for A/D/ CAN/ digital input and output, etc.. It also appears the kit can be upgraded to use the professional license which removes the 32 K debug limitation. Originally I was not looking for its built in UI features, but they will also be very handy for my project. My hope is to have something that I can immediately use without writing a CStart etc, and that also can be used as a controller for external HW. John On Feb 28, 1:15 pm, An Schwob in the USA <schwo...(a)aol.com> wrote: > On Feb 28, 8:16 am, John <jdsot...(a)rochester.rr.com> wrote: > > > > > I am looking for a low cost platform for home Cortex M3 development. > > My main mandatory requirements are: > > > 1. Under $250 total cost. > > 2. C Demo code exists that will work out of the box. (I see some > > systems where many bugs need to be overcome to get a simple demo > > application to work. > > 3. Out of the box support for C.(Working C-Start / ctr0 that clear > > and initialises data are required by C, initialises interrupts, and > > calls main. > > 4. Uses Thumb2 instruction set. (I understand Cortex M3 uses this set > > and is easier to use than legacy ARM). > > 5. No tools code size limitations. (Some evaluation board kits come > > with code size limits either for build chain or debugger). > > 6. >= ADC inputs, 8 digital inputs, 8 digital outputs > > > Optional Requirements: > > 1. C++ support out of the box. > > 2. Existing support for On-Board peripherals. > > 3. Out of the box support for RS232 printf. > > 4. Flash >= 128K > > 5. RAM >= 32 K (I want to use an RTOS. > > 4. HW debugger. > > > I realize this is a really touch set of requirements to meet. > > > I am an embedded developer who has focused mostly on embedded > > applications code (not much BSP). Does anyone have experience with > > the Olimex STM32-P103 or Olimex STM32-H103. How about OpenOCD and the > > Olimex debug hardware? > > > John Sotack > > Well, all your requirements are actually easy to achieve except for > the unlimited compiler. If you would like to have professional tools > the unlimited C-Compilers / Debuggers start around $1k and can easily > hit the $5 level. > > My recommendation would be the Primer2 Pro. It is a nice evaluation > kit, uses the STM32F103, provides tons of reference Software and the > Pro version has no code limitations. > You can check it out here:http://mcu-related.com/architectures/35-cortex-m3/59-stm32-primer2-st...http://mcu-related.com/architectures/35-cortex-m3/58-primer2-a-cortex...http://www.mcu-raisonance.com/~stm32-primer2-professional__microcontr... > > Has just been awarded with EETIMEs product of the year awardhttp://www.mcu-raisonance.com/primer2-eetimes.html > > Cheers, > An Schwob
From: John on 21 Mar 2010 10:00 I bought a Primer2. Had a HW problem, and returned it. I have a second unit also with a hardware problem. I am going to try to return the second unit as well. The Primer2 appears to be a wonderful concept. However, I personally had bad luck with it. At least for now, I am looking into other alternative. John On Mar 3, 8:49 am, John <johnsot...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Thank you for your input. I order a Primer2. I looks like it has a > 20 pin connector that exports configurable IO pins. Mores > specifically it appears certain pins can be configured for A/D/ CAN/ > digital input and output, etc.. It also appears the kit can be > upgraded to use the professional license which removes the 32 K debug > limitation. > > Originally I was not looking for its built in UI features, but they > will also be very handy for my project. > > My hope is to have something that I can immediately use without > writing a CStart etc, and that also can be used as a controller for > external HW. > > John > On Feb 28, 1:15 pm, An Schwob in the USA <schwo...(a)aol.com> wrote: > > > On Feb 28, 8:16 am, John <jdsot...(a)rochester.rr.com> wrote: > > > > I am looking for a low cost platform for homeCortexM3 development. > > > My main mandatory requirements are: > > > > 1. Under $250 total cost. > > > 2. C Demo code exists that will work out of the box. (I see some > > > systems where many bugs need to be overcome to get a simple demo > > > application to work. > > > 3. Out of the box support for C.(Working C-Start / ctr0 that clear > > > and initialises data are required by C, initialises interrupts, and > > > calls main. > > > 4. Uses Thumb2 instruction set. (I understandCortexM3 uses this set > > > and is easier to use than legacy ARM). > > > 5. No tools code size limitations. (Some evaluation board kits come > > > with code size limits either for build chain or debugger). > > > 6. >= ADC inputs, 8 digital inputs, 8 digital outputs > > > > Optional Requirements: > > > 1. C++ support out of the box. > > > 2. Existing support for On-Board peripherals. > > > 3. Out of the box support for RS232 printf. > > > 4. Flash >= 128K > > > 5. RAM >= 32 K (I want to use an RTOS. > > > 4. HW debugger. > > > > I realize this is a really touch set of requirements to meet. > > > > I am an embedded developer who has focused mostly on embedded > > > applications code (not much BSP). Does anyone have experience with > > > the Olimex STM32-P103 or Olimex STM32-H103. How about OpenOCD and the > > > Olimex debug hardware? > > > > JohnSotack > > > Well, all your requirements are actually easy to achieve except for > > the unlimited compiler. If you would like to have professional tools > > the unlimited C-Compilers / Debuggers start around $1k and can easily > > hit the $5 level. > > > My recommendation would be the Primer2 Pro. It is a nice evaluation > > kit, uses the STM32F103, provides tons of reference Software and the > > Pro version has no code limitations. > > You can check it out here:http://mcu-related.com/architectures/35-cortex-m3/59-stm32-primer2-st...... > > > Has just been awarded with EETIMEs product of the year awardhttp://www.mcu-raisonance.com/primer2-eetimes.html > > > Cheers, > > An Schwob
From: John on 1 Apr 2010 15:42
It looks like Raisonance is coming out with a similar product similar to the Primer 2 but improved as follows: * Hardware accept processor daughter card and may be STM32 or STM8. * Larger screen. It apparently still has the IO header. I am considering getting one of these when available. Hopefully they will be similarly affordable to the Primer 2. See link below for details. http://www.raisonance.com/~open4-primer-for-stm32e__microcontrollers__product~product__T017:4hpkyykjl1si.html On Mar 21, 10:00 am, John <johnsot...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I bought a Primer2. Had a HW problem, and returned it. I have a > second unit also with a hardware problem. I am going to try to return > the second unit as well. The Primer2 appears to be a wonderful > concept. However, I personally had bad luck with it. At least for > now, I am looking into other alternative. > > John > > On Mar 3, 8:49 am, John <johnsot...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > Thank you for your input. I order a Primer2. I looks like it has a > > 20 pin connector that exports configurable IO pins. Mores > > specifically it appears certain pins can be configured for A/D/ CAN/ > > digital input and output, etc.. It also appears the kit can be > > upgraded to use the professional license which removes the 32 K debug > > limitation. > > > Originally I was not looking for its built in UI features, but they > > will also be very handy for my project. > > > My hope is to have something that I can immediately use without > > writing a CStart etc, and that also can be used as a controller for > > external HW. > > > John > > On Feb 28, 1:15 pm, An Schwob in the USA <schwo...(a)aol.com> wrote: > > > > On Feb 28, 8:16 am, John <jdsot...(a)rochester.rr.com> wrote: > > > > > I am looking for a low cost platform for homeCortexM3 development. > > > > My main mandatory requirements are: > > > > > 1. Under $250 total cost. > > > > 2. C Demo code exists that will work out of the box. (I see some > > > > systems where many bugs need to be overcome to get a simple demo > > > > application to work. > > > > 3. Out of the box support for C.(Working C-Start / ctr0 that clear > > > > and initialises data are required by C, initialises interrupts, and > > > > calls main. > > > > 4. Uses Thumb2 instruction set. (I understandCortexM3 uses this set > > > > and is easier to use than legacy ARM). > > > > 5. No tools code size limitations. (Some evaluation board kits come > > > > with code size limits either for build chain or debugger). > > > > 6. >= ADC inputs, 8 digital inputs, 8 digital outputs > > > > > Optional Requirements: > > > > 1. C++ support out of the box. > > > > 2. Existing support for On-Board peripherals. > > > > 3. Out of the box support for RS232 printf. > > > > 4. Flash >= 128K > > > > 5. RAM >= 32 K (I want to use an RTOS. > > > > 4. HW debugger. > > > > > I realize this is a really touch set of requirements to meet. > > > > > I am an embedded developer who has focused mostly on embedded > > > > applications code (not much BSP). Does anyone have experience with > > > > the Olimex STM32-P103 or Olimex STM32-H103. How about OpenOCD and the > > > > Olimex debug hardware? > > > > > JohnSotack > > > > Well, all your requirements are actually easy to achieve except for > > > the unlimited compiler. If you would like to have professional tools > > > the unlimited C-Compilers / Debuggers start around $1k and can easily > > > hit the $5 level. > > > > My recommendation would be the Primer2 Pro. It is a nice evaluation > > > kit, uses the STM32F103, provides tons of reference Software and the > > > Pro version has no code limitations. > > > You can check it out here:http://mcu-related.com/architectures/35-cortex-m3/59-stm32-primer2-st...... > > > > Has just been awarded with EETIMEs product of the year awardhttp://www.mcu-raisonance.com/primer2-eetimes.html > > > > Cheers, > > > An Schwob |