From: bugbear on 30 Jun 2010 04:08 RichA wrote: > The Pentax KX has some great image attributes, but its build quality > is toy-like. What FUNCTIONAL problems have been observed? BugBear
From: bugbear on 30 Jun 2010 04:08 Rich wrote: > On Jun 29, 6:58 pm, John Navas <jn...(a)navasgroup.com> wrote: >> On Wed, 30 Jun 2010 10:45:41 +1200, in <i0dt2t$ka...(a)news.albasani.net>, >> >> >> >> Me <u...(a)domain.invalid> wrote: >>> On 30/06/2010 10:11 a.m., John Navas wrote: >>>> On Tue, 29 Jun 2010 14:40:28 -0700 (PDT), in >>>> <36c0881d-810e-4c83-b719-27fce90d1...(a)g19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>, >>>> RichA<rander3...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> The Pentax KX has some great image attributes, but its build quality >>>>> is toy-like. The Panasonic G2 is a horrible cost-cutting exercise, >>>>> production shifted from Japan to China, kit lens debilitated, overall >>>>> feel is cheaper than the excellent G1. Olympus even discontinued an >>>>> MMF-1 4/3rs to m4/3rds adapter for the MMF-2, which is cheaper and has >>>>> a lot more plastic. Plus, the E-PL1 is a cheap, plastic m4/3rds >>>>> offering. >>>> There's nothing inherently wrong with plastic, often just the opposite, >>>> witness the Boeing Dreamliner. >>> http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/boeingaerospace/2003889663_boei... >> Can you say "sour grapes"? >> >> The 777 is 10% plastic by weight. >> The AV-8B Harrier is 25% plastic. >> The F-22 is about 33% plastic. >> > > Saying the Olympus E-Pl1 has the kind of plastic that the F-22 does is > like saying the F-15's titanium skin is the same as the cheap steel in > a Chinese truck toy. Good job no one said it, then. BugBear (relieved)
From: whisky-dave on 30 Jun 2010 06:23 "bugbear" <bugbear(a)trim_papermule.co.uk_trim> wrote in message news:m4CdnTg6EtIRZrfRnZ2dnUVZ8ournZ2d(a)brightview.co.uk... > Rich wrote: >> On Jun 29, 6:58 pm, John Navas <jn...(a)navasgroup.com> wrote: >>> On Wed, 30 Jun 2010 10:45:41 +1200, in <i0dt2t$ka...(a)news.albasani.net>, >>> >>> >>> >>> Me <u...(a)domain.invalid> wrote: >>>> On 30/06/2010 10:11 a.m., John Navas wrote: >>>>> On Tue, 29 Jun 2010 14:40:28 -0700 (PDT), in >>>>> <36c0881d-810e-4c83-b719-27fce90d1...(a)g19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>, >>>>> RichA<rander3...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> The Pentax KX has some great image attributes, but its build quality >>>>>> is toy-like. The Panasonic G2 is a horrible cost-cutting exercise, >>>>>> production shifted from Japan to China, kit lens debilitated, overall >>>>>> feel is cheaper than the excellent G1. Olympus even discontinued an >>>>>> MMF-1 4/3rs to m4/3rds adapter for the MMF-2, which is cheaper and >>>>>> has >>>>>> a lot more plastic. Plus, the E-PL1 is a cheap, plastic m4/3rds >>>>>> offering. >>>>> There's nothing inherently wrong with plastic, often just the >>>>> opposite, >>>>> witness the Boeing Dreamliner. >>>> http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/boeingaerospace/2003889663_boei... >>> Can you say "sour grapes"? >>> >>> The 777 is 10% plastic by weight. >>> The AV-8B Harrier is 25% plastic. >>> The F-22 is about 33% plastic. >>> >> >> Saying the Olympus E-Pl1 has the kind of plastic that the F-22 does is >> like saying the F-15's titanium skin is the same as the cheap steel in >> a Chinese truck toy. > > Good job no one said it, then. > > BugBear (relieved) I want to know why my council can only recycle certain types of plastic, if they are all plastic aren't they the same ;-)
From: simon on 1 Jul 2010 01:50 Funnily enough I had a look at a a camera one of the guys had last night at our camera club (cannot recall brand, but was definitely canon or nikon) I was very surprised at how cheap and lightweight / flimsy it felt compared to my K10D and K-7. What immediately struck me was 'wow, my old istDL was light and plasticcy... but it was better than this.. So i certainly wouldn't say it was confined to 'lesser brands'
From: Me on 1 Jul 2010 02:45 On 30/06/2010 10:58 a.m., John Navas wrote: > On Wed, 30 Jun 2010 10:45:41 +1200, in<i0dt2t$ka6$1(a)news.albasani.net>, > Me<user(a)domain.invalid> wrote: > >> On 30/06/2010 10:11 a.m., John Navas wrote: >>> On Tue, 29 Jun 2010 14:40:28 -0700 (PDT), in >>> <36c0881d-810e-4c83-b719-27fce90d1ef9(a)g19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>, >>> RichA<rander3127(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> The Pentax KX has some great image attributes, but its build quality >>>> is toy-like. The Panasonic G2 is a horrible cost-cutting exercise, >>>> production shifted from Japan to China, kit lens debilitated, overall >>>> feel is cheaper than the excellent G1. Olympus even discontinued an >>>> MMF-1 4/3rs to m4/3rds adapter for the MMF-2, which is cheaper and has >>>> a lot more plastic. Plus, the E-PL1 is a cheap, plastic m4/3rds >>>> offering. >>> >>> There's nothing inherently wrong with plastic, often just the opposite, >>> witness the Boeing Dreamliner. > >> http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/boeingaerospace/2003889663_boeing180.html > > Can you say "sour grapes"? > Yes - when I'm touching wood - err - I mean carbon fibre composite. > > The 777 is 10% plastic by weight. 9%, if you exclude the inflatable auto-pilot. > The AV-8B Harrier is 25% plastic. How many harriers (total) made - how many have crashed over how many flight hours? > The F-22 is about 33% plastic. > Jeesh - for the price, it should be made of unobtanium. Just as a matter of interest, how many jet fighter/fighter bombers have been used to defend the USA?
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