From: a boy on 26 May 2010 07:09 hi, Andrzej, It is easy to prove this! please read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bertrand's_postulate the last sentence in section #Better result shows that p[i+1]-p[i]<=i must be TRUE when p[i] is sufficient big. On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 12:11 PM, a boy <a.dozy.boy(a)gmail.com> wrote: > It has been proved that there exists at least a prime in the interval > (n,2n). > p[i+1]-p[i]<=i iff there exists at least a prime in the interval > (n,n+Pi(n)] > This is an improvement for the upper bound of prime gap, so I think it is > not very difficult. > For the simpleness and elegance of the form p[i+1]-p[i]<=i, I think someone > can prove this. We should be more optimistic! > > > On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 10:11 PM, Andrzej Kozlowski <akoz(a)mimuw.edu.pl>wrote: > >> > I think it is not difficult to prove the proposition,but I can't do this >> still. >> >> You think or you hope? I think it is going to be extremely difficult to >> prove it and the reason is that nothing of this kind has been proved even >> though other people also have computers and eyes. There are some very weak >> asymptotic results and there are conjectures, for which the only evidence >> comes from numerical searches. The best known is Andrica's conjecture which >> states that Sqrt[Prime[i+1]]-Sqrt[Prime[i]]<1 and appears to be stronger >> than yours, but nobody has any idea how to prove that. In fact, nobody can >> prove that Limit[Sqrt[Prime[n+1]]-Sqrt[Prime[n]],n->Infinity]=0 (this has >> been open since 1976), and in fact there is hardly any proved statement of >> this kind. So what is the reason for your optimism? >> >> Andrzej Kozlowski >> >> >> On 6 Feb 2010, at 12:10, a boy wrote: >> >> > Yes,I want the proof of the fact that p[i+1]-p[i]<=i. >> > I think it is not difficult to prove the proposition,but I can't do this >> still. >> > If he or she give me a proof , I will be very happy and appreciate him >> or her! >> > >> > On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 6:50 PM, Andrzej Kozlowski <akoz(a)mimuw.edu.pl> >> wrote: >> > Oh, I see. You meant you want the proof of the fact that p[i+1]-p[i]<=i? >> I misunderstood your question I thought you wanted to see the trivial >> deduction of the statement you had below that. >> > >> > But, considering that practically nothing is known about upper bounds on >> prime number gaps p[i+1]-p[i] in terms of i (all known results involve >> bounds in terms of p[i] and these are only asymptotic), this kind of proof >> would be a pretty big result so, in the unlikely event any of us could prove >> it, would you except him or her just to casually post it here? ;-) >> > >> > Andrzej Kozlowski >> > >> > >> > >> > On 6 Feb 2010, at 08:47, a boy wrote: >> > >> > > When I was observing the prime gaps, I conjectured >> > > p[i+1]-p[i]<=i >> > > >> > > This means there is at least a prime between the interval (n,n+Pi(n)]. >> I verified this by Mathematica and searched in web, but I can't prove this >> yet. >> > > >> > > On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 4:17 AM, Andrzej Kozlowski <akoz(a)mimuw.edu.pl> >> wrote: >> > > Hmm... this is a little weird - how come you know this if you can't >> prove it? This is one of those cases where knowing something is essentially >> the same as proving it... but anyway: >> > > >> > > p[n]-p[1] = (p[n]-p[n-1]) + (p[n-1]-p[n-2]) + ... + (p[2]-p[1]) <= >> (n-1)+ (n-2) + ... + 1 == (n-1) n/2 >> > > >> > > hence >> > > >> > > p[n]<= p[1]+ (n-1)n/2 = 2 + (n-1)n/2 >> > > >> > > Andrzej Kozlowski >> > > >> > > >> > > On 4 Feb 2010, at 12:27, a boy wrote: >> > > >> > > > Hello! >> > > > By my observation, I draw a conclusion: the i-th prime gap >> > > > p[i+1]-p[i]<=i >> > > > Could you give me a simple proof for the proposition? >> > > > >> > > > p[i+1]-p[i]<=i ==> p[n]<p[1]+1+2+..+ n-1=2+n(n-1)/2 >> > > > >> > > > Mathematica code: >> > > > n = 1; >> > > > While[Prime[n + 1] - Prime[n] <= n, n++] >> > > > n >> > > > >> > > > Clear[i]; >> > > > FindInstance[Prime[i + 1] - Prime[i] > i && 0 < i, {i}, Integers] >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> >> >
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