From: Nick on
Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon(a)On-My-Web-Site.com> writes:

> On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 19:31:50 -0400, PeterD <peter2(a)hipson.net> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 21:13:55 +0100, Adam Funk <a24061(a)yahoo.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>glen herrmannsfeldt wrote:
>>>
>>>> And when was it that the beach wear started to be called flip-flops?
>>>>
>>>> I haven't yet tried to explain to my daughter that when I was
>>>> her age that flip-flops were electronic circuits.
>>>
>>
>>AFAIK, flip-flops were named in the mid-60s... But I'm sure someone
>>older will remember that as even earlier!
>
> Weren't 12AX7 flip-flops called "flip-flops"?

ObUsage - that's ECC83 in BrE.
"E" - 6.3 V heaters.
"C" - triode

It's rather fun that it's called "12" and "E" and both are right.
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From: Royston Vasey on

"PaulJK" <paul.kriha(a)clear.net.nz> wrote in message
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> krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote:
>> On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 11:40:11 +1000, Peter Moylan <gro.nalyomp(a)retep>
>> wrote:
>>> legg wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 22 Apr 2010 14:48:09 -0700 (PDT), Rich Grise on Google groups
>>>> <richardgrise(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> In the 1960's, those foam rubber sandalish things were called "shower
>>>>> shoes." ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers!
>>>>> Rich
>>>>
>>>> Actually, they were (also) called 'thongs', refering to the toe-wedge.
>>>> It would also be misunderstood, nowadays.
>>>
>>> Not in Australia. That's our standard name for them.
>>>
>>> If you spoke about flip-flops, only those with an electronics background
>>> would understand.
>>
>> What about "stepped on a pop top"? I don't suppose anyone would get that
>> anymore either.
>>
>>> I have a pair of thongs without the toe-wedge. (Instead, there's a
>>> couple of velcro pieces that fold over the foot.) Everyone here calls
>>> those thongs too. The name has become divorced from the etymology.
>>
>> I always called them "sandals".
>
> Those are "thongs" or "jandals" down here downunder.
> "Sandals" have extra straps around the heal.
>
> pjk
>

Thongs yeah - but jandals is a Kiwi thing, along with "chilly bin" for an
esky / ice cooler.

:)


From: Jonathan Bromley on
On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 12:21:31 +0100, Nick wrote:

>ObUsage - that's ECC83 in BrE.
>"E" - 6.3 V heaters.
>"C" - triode

And the first digit '8' denoted its B9A base. Only the final '3'
was available to indicate variations on the ECC8* theme.

>It's rather fun that it's called "12" and "E" and both are right.

Eh? Oh, you mean about the series-connected heaters with
a centre-tap so they could be used in series for 12.6V or in
parallel for 6.3V ? I suppose that's "fun" for a certain value
of "fun" :-) Possibly slightly more "fun" than the dreaded U-
and P- series valves/tubes, often used in low-end consumer
kit, that had a specified filament *current* (P=300mA,
U=100mA IIRC). Allowed the filaments to be connected
in a series string and powered directly from 240VAC
with the help of a huge, hot and unreliable ballast
resistor. Happy days.
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From: krw on
On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 15:02:57 +0100, Jonathan Bromley
<spam(a)oxfordbromley.plus.com> wrote:

>On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 12:21:31 +0100, Nick wrote:
>
>>ObUsage - that's ECC83 in BrE.
>>"E" - 6.3 V heaters.
>>"C" - triode
>
>And the first digit '8' denoted its B9A base. Only the final '3'
>was available to indicate variations on the ECC8* theme.
>
>>It's rather fun that it's called "12" and "E" and both are right.
>
>Eh? Oh, you mean about the series-connected heaters with
>a centre-tap so they could be used in series for 12.6V or in
>parallel for 6.3V ? I suppose that's "fun" for a certain value
>of "fun" :-) Possibly slightly more "fun" than the dreaded U-
>and P- series valves/tubes, often used in low-end consumer
>kit, that had a specified filament *current* (P=300mA,
>U=100mA IIRC). Allowed the filaments to be connected
>in a series string and powered directly from 240VAC
>with the help of a huge, hot and unreliable ballast
>resistor. Happy days.

The "All American Five" had the filaments tied in series and needed no
steenkin' ballast resistor. There was a little shock hazard in some. Happy
daze indeed.
From: Adam Funk on
On 2010-04-23, legg wrote:

> On Thu, 22 Apr 2010 14:48:09 -0700 (PDT), Rich Grise on Google groups
><richardgrise(a)yahoo.com> wrote:

>>In the 1960's, those foam rubber sandalish things were called "shower
>>shoes." ;-)

> Actually, they were (also) called 'thongs', refering to the toe-wedge.
> It would also be misunderstood, nowadays.


Well, the wedge-related theme applies either way.


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